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Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:33 am
by Matt Kirsch
Went through and started all the tractors last Saturday.

Super A isn't charging... AGAIN.

Grounded the field on the generator, got full charge. Another regulator bites it...

So do I throw another regulator on or convert to 12V...

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:52 am
by BIGHOSS
Depends upon which regulator you have. Many of the older ones can be adjusted. The newer ones have the adjustment wheel staked in place, which cannot be moved. I have an old time rebuilder that can do wonders with a generator and regulator. I take both to his shop, so he can tweak the regulator to charge just the right amount of volts. Now, if he says that he cannot do anything with the VR, then you are back to your question of gen vs alternator.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:40 pm
by Super A
Where'd you get the regulator? I understand the USA made ones (that TM used to carry) are much better quality.

I guess you don't have to look at my sig. line very hard to see what my vote would be....

Al

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:26 pm
by Matt Kirsch
I took a chance on a cheap ebay regulator a couple years ago.

They screwed up and sent two. I've had both of them fail on me now.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:39 pm
by mikeintn
I've had good service from the ones I get from NAPA, made in USA :D

I've never had any luck with the ones from China, or anything else from there :(

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:01 am
by tst
check rock atuo for a vr 214, they have closeouts usa made
Tim

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:13 am
by Eugene
All my work tractors have been converted to 12 volt alternators. Only had one alternator of unknown age fail. The alternator was over 15 years old. Spent in the $50- range to replace the 3 wire alternator with a single wire alternator.

Topic has been discussed many times. My opinion, I would convert to a 12 volt single wire alternator.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:25 pm
by Tezell
:Dito: :Dito:

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:55 pm
by Rudi
Matt:

Get a good regulator and stop the pain. Those off-shore ones aren't so hot. I get only genuine AC Delco replacement parts -- seems to work. The higher end NAPA ones - Echlin I think would be a quality unit as well.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:47 pm
by Jim Becker
tst wrote:check rock atuo for a vr 214, they have closeouts usa made
Tim

I just got one. The private label package says CarQuest. The regulator itself has no brand marking but is marked made in USA.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:08 pm
by Matt Kirsch
tst wrote:check rock atuo for a vr 214, they have closeouts usa made
Tim


Dang, I am all over that one... Ordered two just in case.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:50 pm
by Super A
tst wrote:check rock atuo for a vr 214, they have closeouts usa made
Tim



Thanks for posting this. The 12 volt VR on our IH 424 died. Ordered from Rock Auto and got one made by Standard, marked MADE IN USA. Hopefully we'll get 45 years out of it like the old one!

Al

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:52 pm
by SONNY
My "new" sa IS 12-v!---What were they supposed to be in the first place??? ---I have other 6-v tractors, BUT when they die they do get changed!---if that makes me a quitter, then so be it!--I gotta have running, charging work tractors and cant be messing around with the dinosor stuff!--LOL! thanks; sonny

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm
by beaconlight
Wow every time I see Sonny post I agree with him.

Re: Throw another regulator at it?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:55 pm
by Super A
SONNY wrote:I gotta have running, charging work tractors and cant be messing around with the dinosor stuff!--LOL! thanks; sonny



Me too. Like I said the 424 regulator still had factory paint from 1967 on it.

Super A's were 6 volt originally.

Al