This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Boss Hog
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
Posts: 10290
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:35 pm
Zip Code: 23962
eBay ID: dmb2613
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: VA. Randolph

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Boss Hog » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:59 pm

Al,With the 123 the tank sets about 1 inch or so higher than the 113s If you will look the SC is taller than the regular C
Boss
IN GOD WE TRUST
All others pay cash
Boss Hog
Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely byJohn Emerich Edward Dalberg

SPONSOR AD

Sponsor



Sponsor
 

User avatar
tractordad
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1475
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:36 pm
Zip Code: 01516
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub w/ IH C2 mower
50 High wide "demo" cub with dual fertilizer hoppers
51 high wide cub w/474 planter
62 High wide cub w/ fast hitch
72 High wide w/cultivators
75 Red Long stripe w/fast hitch & C2 mower
76 Red long stripe w/IH 1000 loader & duals
77 long stripe with IH C2 belly mower
55 Super AV w/cultivators
56 Super AV
57 130 High crop w/cultivators
1 IH 574 w IH 2250
quick hitch loader
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Douglas, MA

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:04 pm

Super A wrote:
Boss Hog wrote: the 123 is a much taller engine



I don't think they are, 'least not the earlier 123's. It looks taller because the hood is setting taller. As Jim said I think AV2 might be a frankentractor.

Al



The bottom spacing between the last "groove" on the two grills is different. Does anyone know why?

User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5228
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: Collector of Super As, Corn Pickers, and a buncha other junk. Even a Cub now and then...
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Jacksonville area

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:08 pm

Boss Hog wrote:Al,With the 123 the tank sets about 1 inch or so higher than the 113s If you will look the SC is taller than the regular C
Boss


It's because the radiator is taller. The engine itself is the same height.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022

User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5228
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: Collector of Super As, Corn Pickers, and a buncha other junk. Even a Cub now and then...
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Jacksonville area

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:13 pm

tractordad wrote:
Super A wrote:
Boss Hog wrote: the 123 is a much taller engine



I don't think they are, 'least not the earlier 123's. It looks taller because the hood is setting taller. As Jim said I think AV2 might be a frankentractor.

Al



The bottom spacing between the last "groove" on the two grills is different. Does anyone know why?


That makes up for the taller radiator.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022

User avatar
tractordad
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1475
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:36 pm
Zip Code: 01516
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub w/ IH C2 mower
50 High wide "demo" cub with dual fertilizer hoppers
51 high wide cub w/474 planter
62 High wide cub w/ fast hitch
72 High wide w/cultivators
75 Red Long stripe w/fast hitch & C2 mower
76 Red long stripe w/IH 1000 loader & duals
77 long stripe with IH C2 belly mower
55 Super AV w/cultivators
56 Super AV
57 130 High crop w/cultivators
1 IH 574 w IH 2250
quick hitch loader
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Douglas, MA

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:49 pm

With the help of Boss, I spoke with a gentleman whom very versed on Farmalls. I pulled off some casting dates and it has been determined this is a 130 high crop. Obviously I need to find the correct tin.

Gary

Matt Kirsch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 4945
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:04 pm
Zip Code: 14559
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Rochester, NY

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Matt Kirsch » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:47 pm

I have seen a lot of '00 and '30 series tractors with badly bashed tin. I've also heard that the sheet metal on these tractors was exceptionally poor quality.

User avatar
tractordad
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1475
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:36 pm
Zip Code: 01516
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub w/ IH C2 mower
50 High wide "demo" cub with dual fertilizer hoppers
51 high wide cub w/474 planter
62 High wide cub w/ fast hitch
72 High wide w/cultivators
75 Red Long stripe w/fast hitch & C2 mower
76 Red long stripe w/IH 1000 loader & duals
77 long stripe with IH C2 belly mower
55 Super AV w/cultivators
56 Super AV
57 130 High crop w/cultivators
1 IH 574 w IH 2250
quick hitch loader
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Douglas, MA

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:54 pm

I do believe finding a grill and hood will be a challenge. An 100,130, 200, or 230 grill and hood will work. If anyone has any of these parts available, I'd appreciate you letting me know. Thanks

User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5228
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: Collector of Super As, Corn Pickers, and a buncha other junk. Even a Cub now and then...
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Jacksonville area

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:10 am

The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022

User avatar
tractordad
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1475
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:36 pm
Zip Code: 01516
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub w/ IH C2 mower
50 High wide "demo" cub with dual fertilizer hoppers
51 high wide cub w/474 planter
62 High wide cub w/ fast hitch
72 High wide w/cultivators
75 Red Long stripe w/fast hitch & C2 mower
76 Red long stripe w/IH 1000 loader & duals
77 long stripe with IH C2 belly mower
55 Super AV w/cultivators
56 Super AV
57 130 High crop w/cultivators
1 IH 574 w IH 2250
quick hitch loader
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Douglas, MA

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:36 am

Super A wrote:The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

Al



Al,

I agree. I may sell my grill as a complete unit or do as you said and replace the grill insert. I see Steiner and Farmallparts.com. has them. If you know of someone less expensive, kindly let me k now. Thanks

User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5228
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: Collector of Super As, Corn Pickers, and a buncha other junk. Even a Cub now and then...
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Jacksonville area

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:40 am

tractordad wrote:
Super A wrote:The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

Al



Al,

I agree. I may sell my grill as a complete unit or do as you said and replace the grill insert. I see Steiner and Farmallparts.com. has them. If you know of someone less expensive, kindly let me k now. Thanks


I would look up OEM Tractor Parts but I expect they won't be much different in price. Also you will have to replace the whole grille, there's no separate insert on the A/B/C Super's grille.

If you decide to sell the the grille, I might be interested. :D

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022

User avatar
Dale Finch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6634
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:44 am

Super A wrote: ....you will have to replace the whole grille, there's no separate insert on the A/B/C Super's grille.

What about this?
http://www.steinertractor.com/IHS310-center-grill-section-wscreen
Dale Finch
Image
Circle of Safety

User avatar
tractordad
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1475
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:36 pm
Zip Code: 01516
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub w/ IH C2 mower
50 High wide "demo" cub with dual fertilizer hoppers
51 high wide cub w/474 planter
62 High wide cub w/ fast hitch
72 High wide w/cultivators
75 Red Long stripe w/fast hitch & C2 mower
76 Red long stripe w/IH 1000 loader & duals
77 long stripe with IH C2 belly mower
55 Super AV w/cultivators
56 Super AV
57 130 High crop w/cultivators
1 IH 574 w IH 2250
quick hitch loader
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Douglas, MA

Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:57 am

Dale,

I have spoke with them yesterday. They have the grill insert and the bottom section. Discussions with used parts people I have come to realize the bottom section is usually always toast. This is the style of hood and grill I need.

http://www.chatstractors.com/1407-Farmalll-130-tractor.htm


Return to “Farmall A, Super A, AV, 100, 130 & 140”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests