140 Sheet Metal change

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140 Sheet Metal change

Postby 1978cub » Fri May 22, 2015 7:28 am

Does anyone know the year/ serial number when Farmall 140's changed from the early style sheet metal (Grille with bars across the front) to the later type of sheet metal (perforated sheet metal grille)? Thank you

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Jim Becker » Fri May 22, 2015 9:06 am

It is in the Parts Catalog as 1963, 23301.

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby 1978cub » Fri May 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Thanks Jim!

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Pops140 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:42 am

I thought it was 68 on the 140

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Shane Nelson » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:17 am

Pops140 wrote:I thought it was 68 on the 140

Nope. In 1968 they changed the name from "McCormick Farmall" to "International Farmall". The grill change as Jim stated was 1963.
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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Pops140 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:48 am

Thanks for clearing that up

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:20 am

Chipmaker wrote:
Pops140 wrote:I thought it was 68 on the 140

Nope. In 1968 they changed the name from "McCormick Farmall" to "International Farmall". The grill change as Jim stated was 1963.
I would like to point out that all the way to the end of production in 1979 they still used a "McCormick" decal on the dash panel. Here is a photo of an original late-1978 model 140 showing that decal. I've also had several 1968 models, and various models from 1969 through 1976 that had the decal.
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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:04 pm

I wanted to post a reply to this thread becuase I picked up a 1960 Farmall 140 (per serial number 89xx and 1959 & 1960 cast codes) today for parts. It came with the gas tank, nose cowl, grill screen, and hood (all not attached). While I know that the sheetmetal isn't original to the tractor, I did find it interesting. It is the "later style" sheetmetal for a Farmall 140 but it has the aluminum emblems like that found on the "early style" sheetmetal. Also, it has the "International" aluminum emblem and not the "Farmall" Emblem. To me, it looks factory, as I don't know why someone would install these emblems into both the hood and the nose cowl. I'm guessing that IH did this in the 1963 transition period to use-up any old parts. I haven't measured it, but the "International" emblems could have came from the Cub or Cub Lo-Boy parts bin. I would also like to note that the gas tank bracket is different than I've seen. It looks like it has some adapter bracket extensions added that are a factory IH part.

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:33 am

Although the cowl and grill are obviously from a later tractor, you may have the original hood. The INTERNATIONAL name plates could be the originals as well. Somebody may have transferred the 140 ovals when the cowl was replaced. By the way, the 140 and Cub name plates are the same part.

Bracket extensions? Are you talking about the more or less triangular extensions on the rear bracket? I thought they were used on everything Super A1 and on to raise the tank above the Super A position.

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:06 am

To be honest, by looking at the care this tractor has had in the past I don't see them taking the time to do a "good" job and transferring the 140 ovals to the later cowl. Maybe the factory did that as part of the changeover to use up old parts. I can look closer to see the quailty of the work. Who knows.......

You are right the hood could be an original or could be from the tractor the cowl came from.

Yes, the triangular pieces. I've never noticed those pieces, as most tanks I've seen have a bracket that is the correct shape and size not needing those "extensions".
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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:59 am

Keep in mind that the guy that replaced the sheet metal may not be the same guy that ran it into the ground.

The extension brackets would have been introduced with the Super C, allowing it and the Super A to use the same tank. Maybe they redid the tank with the longer bracket to reduce parts count at the factory but kept the extension brackets for field replacement so they didn't have to stock 2 different tanks as replacements. If so, this tractor may have had a replacement tank (or a used replacement from one of the earlier tractors).

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Re: 140 Sheet Metal change

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:55 pm

Makes sense Jim. Thanks for the insight. The old 140 parts tractor might look a little rough, but she runs great!!!
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