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- havoc1482
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TC Pump differences
How many different variants of the pump were made? I know of at least two, but the two pictures on the Case/IH Partstore look different from the one I just salvaged. The 2 bolts that hold the manifold on this one thread directly into the pump body instead of through it with a nut on the other side like the current one on my Super A. The 2 on the Partstore look like the bolts go through to a nut as well. Could this have been a variant for a later model tractor?
Mike
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Re: TC Pump differences
Havoc, There were four different manufacturers, mostly similar , but some differences in seals, orings, gaskets.
They were Thompson, Cessa, Pesco, and Wooster.The only one of mine I have had apart is a Pesco, P#360687R91.
(An old CNH parts breakdown I have shows a Thompson 360945R92 and W/W for 3603689R96, 355007R94,and 355370R93)
I replaced the oring from a hydraulic shop. It was not oval, rather round, but I was able to form it in the oval grove and it works . BTW, the CNH parts breakdown was several years ago before they "improved " the online parts site. I have IH part #s for a couple of pumps if you can describe the part, I may be able to figure out the part#, but it is probably NLA
They were Thompson, Cessa, Pesco, and Wooster.The only one of mine I have had apart is a Pesco, P#360687R91.
(An old CNH parts breakdown I have shows a Thompson 360945R92 and W/W for 3603689R96, 355007R94,and 355370R93)
I replaced the oring from a hydraulic shop. It was not oval, rather round, but I was able to form it in the oval grove and it works . BTW, the CNH parts breakdown was several years ago before they "improved " the online parts site. I have IH part #s for a couple of pumps if you can describe the part, I may be able to figure out the part#, but it is probably NLA
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Re: TC Pump differences
BTW, (got sidetracked), on mine, the bolts go through both halves with nuts on the end.
- havoc1482
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Re: TC Pump differences
Stamped on this one is P24EZ5G2R03 and below that number is 383014R93. There is the number '20' inside a diamond below those and even farther below those stamps is '7 65K'. The opposite side has 'T18' inside of a circle.
Mike
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Re: TC Pump differences
Well, that leaves me with no helpful ideas. It looks like my Pesco but that isn't any help.
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Re: TC Pump differences
Bear in mind that the same hydraulic pumps were used on all 113/123 engines with hydraulics. SA, C, SC, maybe others.
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Re: TC Pump differences
Old on the right, "new" on the left. I just noticed the differences in outlet diameter, is that going cause a pressure problem with my TC block? All the dimensions are the same, it will fit, I just need to get some new coarse thread bolts, old pump ones are 1/4 inch too short and 2 for attaching the manifold.
Mike
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