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Lowered "A"

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:28 pm

Have acquired 2 parts "A" tractors, hoping to make one good one.Have'nt dragged them home yet - possibly next week.

Exploring the possibility of a lowered "A" similar to the Custom LoBoy; does anyone know if reduction boxes will invert[180 deg.]? Or possibly eliminate the finals and use smaller diameter wheels and tires- maybe 16". Have looked for final drive ratios [even tooth counts] but have either worded my search wrong or looked in the wrong place.

Have one "A" that is all original and I really like it ,but at 70yrs. old I'm finding it difficult to crawl on n off...
Many Thanks,wayne

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:39 pm

Have you considered adding a step like some use on a CUB? Hooks on the right brake pedal/floor pan.
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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:51 pm

Yes I have,even have added one to the "A" that i use, just wanted this project. Thank you for the reply!

wayne

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby 1978cub » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:07 pm

Years ago (maybe 5 or 6) I saw a "LOWERED" 140 for sale online. It appeared it had been done like a cub loboy and the front steering spindles must have been shortened? It was neat looking but as I recall high priced.

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Lt.Mike » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:14 pm

That's an interesting project. If you manage to swing the rear axles forward like a Lo-Boy remember you'll have to fiddle with the fenders to bring them forward too like the LB.
The spindles are the easy part.
Is one of the A's an International?
That's the one I'd lower, seems right.
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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby ricky racer » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:27 pm

It'd be a cool project. Please share your progress as you go, I want to watch!!
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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Lt.Mike » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:36 pm

...don't forget the Lo-Boy emblems when your finished. :wink:
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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Will need to wait on the weather to get them home, am contemplating turning reduction drives upside down. Especially if it is direct bolt on.Also considering equal length rear axles.Dreaming at this stage...

wayne

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Lt.Mike » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:34 pm

baldy347 wrote:Will need to wait on the weather to get them home, am contemplating turning reduction drives upside down. Especially if it is direct bolt on.Also considering equal length rear axles.Dreaming at this stage...

wayne

First thing that comes to mind is lubrication?
I'd be ok forward but upside down?
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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:10 am

Have wondered about that too. All suggestions and observations greatly appreciated.
many thanks,wayne

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Matt Kirsch » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:33 am

I saw exactly what you're talking about last summer at the Pageant of Steam in Canandaigua NY. It was a Farmall A with inverted final drives, done up as a "rat rod." Widened out on the left side for a second person to ride along as I recall.

The owner was using it like a golf cart, to run around the grounds.

So, it is possible, and can be done. Just don't know how he kept the oil in the final drives, or if he keeps any oil in them at all. Since it does not do any real work I wonder if he doesn't just grease the gears up real good.

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:17 pm

By any chance did you get pics? Did you notice how he configured the front axle?

Thanks,wayne







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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:12 pm

I googled "lowered Farmall A" and got a "Lo-Boy A".
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If that was a Lo-Boy...
This is a "Lo-Rider"
8) Led Sled
Very cool indeed.

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:16 pm

Here's a link to the Lo-Boy thread.

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/vi ... e762dacba6
Apparently this isn't his only venture into transforming a A...

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Re: Lowered "A"

Postby baldy347 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:31 am

I had tried the search on yahoo but some how missed these. A combination of the first two is what I had in mind. Many Thanks for the help!

wayne


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