Farmall what?

Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:11 pm

I seen a tractor that looks like a ford 9n in size what farmall is it? Its a beefy looking tractor and its a low tractor. It has a wide front end too. Werr can i get pics of it? What is it? Whats it worth?

Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:18 pm

Sounds like the W-series, made to compete with the Fords, I think. W-4 had the H's engine and W-6 had an engine like the M. The W-s also were made during the early number series. Seems like I remember seeing a W-400. I think the W stood for wheatland? There are even supers and diesels. Maybe there were even W-12 or W-20s? Someone will have to help me out on this.

Trent

Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:30 pm

Bill and Trent,
Here is a pic of a w-4
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Is this what you saw?
Bill

Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:30 pm

I can't tell if its a w-6 or a international utility 300, 330 or 350 but you maybe close too. I have to go back and look closer. It was dusk when i passed it by lastnite. I'm leaning towards the beefier W series it looks big and low.

Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:08 pm

Definitely not a "Farmall." Call a utility or wheatland tractor a Farmall in the wrong place at the wrong time, and you may need to unzip your pants to eat afterwards! :shock:

Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:45 pm

Could also be an I-4, I-6 or ID-6. I-4 being the H engine, I-6 being the M engine.

Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:23 am

Matt Kirsch wrote:Definitely not a "Farmall." Call a utility or wheatland tractor a Farmall in the wrong place at the wrong time, and you may need to unzip your pants to eat afterwards! :shock:


I did see it called a international utility not just a utility. In the post above yours I called it a utility? :lol: (maybe) I'm sorry i only seen it from the front grille so far. I know its not JD green......its red like a farmall :roll: . I called it a farmall before i researched into it on yesterdays tractors after a while of looking I found out it may or may not be a farmall but it does have a grille like one and its red, But yet it could be an "I" and have a farmall H engine. :wink: So it may be a cross breed from a farmall. I need to go back and take a closer look. :?:

The bottomline is it may or may not be a farmall but its designed by the same engineers and probably manufactured at the same factory so its got the farmall quality wether it says farmall or not.

Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:05 am

Nobody mentioned the International 300-U. Similar in layout to the N Fords but beefier. I didn't like the one I had and traded it for a Cub. :lol:


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Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:44 am

Welcome back, George. I see you survived the heat from the show.

Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:14 am

GW; It looks like a real work horse with the FEL on it kind of super duty thats what i'm looking for.

Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:47 pm

BigBill wrote:GW; It looks like a real work horse with the FEL on it kind of super duty thats what i'm looking for.

If it dont have power steering it would take 4 arms and a good leg to steer it
David

Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:28 am

I had a 73 chevy 4x4 truck without power steering and you only steer when its moving. Sitting still it takes 4 arms to turn the wheels.
On the other hand if it has hydraulics why not rig up the steering wheel with a valve and put a cylinder on the drag link. I think with a little reengineering it can be done successfully.

Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:27 am

Hope this clears some of the confusion up. A Farmall is atractor made by International Harvestor with the intent of carrying its impliments on the tractor itself. Example a cultivator or planter is bolted to the sides of the tractor and suspended below the tractor. These tractors also have adjustable width wheels and wide or narrow front ends. Typically refered to as a rowcrop tractor. A McCormick-Deering, McCormick, or International also is built by International Harvestor. This tractor was made with the intent of pushing or pulling the implement. These tractors have a fixed tread width and non adjustable front ends. Typically called a standard tractor. Until 1948? all standard farm tractors went by the name of McCormick-Deering. At that time the last member of the Deering family passed away and the Deering name was dropped. Any industrial tractor was know as an International. In 1955? the Mccormick name was dropped and all standard tractors went by the name of International. An example of a problem the designations had is as follows. In late '54 and early'55 International sold a tractor that was called the International 400. This is a standard tractor that shared most parts with the Farmall 400. When some parts were ordered at the dealer Farmall parts were recieved and they did not fit. International redesignated this tractor then as the W-400 to eliminate the confusion. At present time the W designation may or may not refer to wheatland. It is not known for sure. Hope this helps. ihredo4

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:02 am

Trent M wrote:Sounds like the W-series, made to compete with the Fords, I think. W-4 had the H's engine and W-6 had an engine like the M. The W-s also were made during the early number series. Seems like I remember seeing a W-400. I think the W stood for wheatland? There are even supers and diesels. Maybe there were even W-12 or W-20s? Someone will have to help me out on this.

Trent


The W series was in no way made by IH to compete with the Fords. They were standard tread tractors for farmers that didn't need a Farmall configuration (narrow front, wide spaced rears).

The tractor in question could be any number of models--a 300 U as George mentioned, 404, 424, 504, etc. etc. etc.

Guy Fay can confirm/refute this, but the dropping of "Deering" was more a matter of marketing than the death of Deering family members.

Al