Farmall Cub

I was looking at a tractor and bought that I was told was an English made B414 but it turns out it is really a IH 444. More HP I believe and a later model. Anyone know anything about this tractor? This one was a highway tractor with turf tires and very low miles....583 total. As I mentioned I want to pull a baler and it also has a 3 pt hitch (bonus round for me!!!!).
Thanks, Chris

Chris - check this:

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractor ... r-444.html

The problem with the engines in these,(444 and the 2444) is that you cant find a used block for them!!!---I have and am still looking for short block for my 2444!---Have seen lots of the engines, but all were like mine!! SCATTERED !----rods dont seem to stay attached to the crank very well!!!---I think a lot of this problem is abuse by former owners, BUT if you ever need to replace the block ---GOOD LUCK!!! The block has different bolt pattern( clutch housing end) than the regular block in these models and are not interchangeable ---Or thats what Bates Corp. IH Parts told me!!

As for a baler tractor, they are just the nuts for that, as they are easy to drive, well balanced, and have the power to bale with ! thanks; sonny

My cousin raised beef cattle on 115 acres for years using a 444. He plowed, planted, mowed, raked, and pulled a 45 IH baler with it. He went to a bigger tractor when round bales required more horsepower. The 444 is a fine tractor that will serve you well.

Thanks BD, Sonny and Mike,

Fortunately the block is in fine condition. No wear in the piston area and this is a sleeveless block so that I am told is good. I do have to put the engine back together and need a gasket kit. I was trying to figure out the name of the place to order and there it is....Bates. Thanks!! I'll keep you posted with the engine rebuild project. I do need a clutch, there was nothing attached to the flywheel when I got it and an alternator. Anyone have a wiring diagram? These are a little more involved than the basic wiring of the Cub. Also did this ever have a cab option?
Chris

Ed Darowski has a 444.

Don McCombs wrote:Ed Darowski has a 444.

How interesting....never noticed. He has too much stuff. He probably won't notice parts missing. ssssshh!
Anyone else? Mine is a gas version. I don't know if it is 6 or 12 volt. I only have the engine and misc. parts at my house. The tractor is in Rhode Island awaiting a ride home.

It will be factory 12 volt neg. ground system!-----probably be alt with internal reg.
It is newer than my 404 and 504 but I have some books for these,--now if the wiring is similar maybe we can work with that to at least get you started hooking up engine wires! thanks; sonny

I like the 444, kinda like the red headed step child IH. I have always thought they were a good sized machine.

They are a very nice tractor!---My Uncles had a 464 gas in the early 80's and it was about the handiest tractor on the farm!! thanks; sonny

One other interesting thing is it is IH highway orange. What is the feeling about leaving it that way?

If that was the only color it ever had and you want it original,---leave it yellow! they still look good! thanks ; sonny

Chuckwheat Farm wrote:One other interesting thing is it is IH highway orange. What is the feeling about leaving it that way?

By all means leave it orange!

Are the blocks in the 444 and 2444 different i have a 444 diesel i rebult the engine about fifteen years ago and it has sleeves.
Jim

I was thinking that the Diesel version had sleeves,--BUT the gas version was sleeveless !! the gas parts are the hard to find ones,---diesel parts more readily avail.
The block casting number of the gas block is 388575-R1. These motors were used on a few machine models, like 91 or 93 combine, a couple swather models, I have a list of all the exact models and will see if that book has been unpacked yet and can post the interchange list!

A cab was not an option that I am aware of! thanks; sonny