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424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby washbb » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:11 pm

Seems I may become a tractor guy yet. Got most of my cub issues resolved but am now helping a friend do some work on a 424 diesel tractor he has. We are going to change glow plugs and possibly change the hydraulic fluid. I also have a question about the hydraulic system. We would like to use a hitch mounted wood splitter with this tractor but are not sure if we have enough pump for that or not. Has anyone here done this or know where a good place to look for hydraulic system information is. Tractor runs good once you get it started and is in decent shape and we would like to use it to run a tractor mounted splitter if we can.
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:19 pm

The 424 pump will be either 7.6 or 10 gpm. While that is still modest compared to a lot of splitters, it is several times more than the Cub pump. The same question relative to the Cub, of course, produced a long inconclusive discussion. You will only be able to use a small percentage of the engine's power, but it should work OK.
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby Rudi » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:28 pm

well, I am not exactly familiar with the 424 diesels aside from the fact that they are British built. As to whether or not it's hydraulic pump can handle a wood splitter? Well, ifn a Cub's 2.5gpm 2500psi pump can handle a wood splitter I imagine the 424 should be able to. How fast and how big a log it can split is unknown, but running the splitter should not be a problem.

edit: Since Jim posted - clarification - as with the Cub, if you are not concerned with speed, then how fast you split is moot. There is one Cub powered splitter in operation, it is not quick by any stretch, but it gets the job done. Same would apply with the 424 I would think. Follow the links in the google search below.

I googled IH 424 Diesel Specs and found a few good hits..

TractorData.com wrote:Production:
Manufacturer: International Harvester

Factory: Doncaster, England
Louisville, Kentucky, USA

Total built: -unknown-
Original price: $3,300 (1967)


International Harvester 424 Engine: International Harvester 4-cyl gasoline International Harvester 4-cyl diesel
full engine details ...

Capacity:
Fuel: -unknown-

3-Point Hitch: Rear Type: I

Power Take-off (PTO): Rear PTO: live

Rear RPMs: 540


Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: -unknown-
Weight: 4,055 lbs [1839 kg]

Front tire: 5.50-16

Rear tire: 12.4-28

full dimensions and tires ...

424 Serial Numbers:
Location: Clutch housing on left side

1964: 501
1965: 1402
1966: 7841
1967: 13627


International Harvester 424 Power:
Drawbar (claimed): 32.1 hp [23.9 kW]

PTO (claimed): 36.97 hp [27.6 kW]

Drawbar (tested): 31.9 hp [23.8 kW]

PTO (tested): 36.9 hp [27.5 kW]

power test details ...

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD

Steering: -unknown-
Brakes: -unknown-
Cab: Open operator station.



Electrical:
Ground: -unknown-


No mention of hydraulics, but I assume ifn you are asking, it must have hydraulics.. :D
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby washbb » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:50 pm

To be fair I have not even looked at the hydraulics. I know it has a 3 point hitch and has a back blade so I think I should be ok. I just cant remember whats there for hook ups now. I was told there used to be a loader for this but I have not seen it around.
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby SONNY » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:29 pm

You can split SMALL diameter, easy splitting species of wood, (could do it faster with maul), but could still do small amounts at the time on a casual basis!--Dont expect to do large stuff at high speed,---TRUST ME,--it aint gonna happen!

Just keep in mind that if you damage some of these pumps, repairs/replacement pumps are NOT to be found very easy, so on a personal note instead of chancing a $1,000 pump I would add a seprate hyd. pump and pto drive it,--or a 10 hp or so B & S engine! if you have enough hp to pull the pump!---that would be the way to go! thanks; sonny
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby washbb » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:17 am

I have been looking at splitters that drive from a pto pump. 25GPM at 540 rpm.
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Re: 424 Diesel hydraulics and wood splitter

Postby SONNY » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:19 pm

That would do some serious splitting,---just make sure that you use a large oil res. to keep the pump from getting hot or the oil cavitation and sucking air!---You can then split on a serious rate/amount! thanks; sonny
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