Farmall H, HV & Super H, 1939-1954
Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:31 am
I am researching for a (hopefully) soon tractor purchase. Does the Farmall H have the same non-industry-standard PTO that I have been told the Farmall Cub has? Any clues here? Thanks in advance. Also, I am looking for a tractor that can pull a manure spreader for horses that are bedded on straw. I am currently deciding between a Farmall H and a Ford 2N. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:51 am
Joe - the Farmall H has a standard 540 rpm. clockwise pto.
I think some of the very early H's may have had a smaller pto shaft but were standard speed and rotation.
You will find the H infinitely more useful than the 2N. (in my opinion)
Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:57 am
Thanks a bunch. I think the H is a little less expensive than the 2n also. Do you know if the H has more HP, btw? I think I read that somewhere... Also as far as the very early H's having a smaller pto (possibly) do you know approximately what year that ended, and if I could get some form of adapter for current standard sized pto driven equipment?
Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:19 pm
We have a 44 and a 48 H and they both have std PTO.
If you find an early H don't worry I have saw maybe at stiener tractor they had an adapter for like $50 to change to the std PTO.
I fixed up and early 9N same as the 2N and you will like the H so much better. easier to get on nicer to drive and it will out pull that 2N no problem.
That H should have 22-30hp depending what year and head that it has and most have been rebuilt with bigger pistons for more horse power. You will also find that many of the early PTO shafts have been replaces with the correct size.
Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:20 pm
Shoot! I didn't see you were in Michigan I have contacts for a farmall H that I am looking at this weekend.
I am near saginaw where are you? 989-295-2411
Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:32 pm
The 1939 and early 1940 Hs had a different PTO design on them. It's a 1-1/8" 6-spline vs. the standard 1-3/8" 6-spline. Adapters can be obtained for far less than $50.
That 31/32", 10-spline, 1800RPM, reverse-rotation PTO on the Cub is unique to the Cub. I believe the reasons for it were twofold:
1. The Cub didn't have enough power to run standard 540RPM implements of the time, so it didn't need to adhere to the standard.
2. Because the PTO is direct-drive off the engine, there was less power loss, and we all know that Cubs don't have much power to spare.
Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:58 pm
Adapters can be obtained for far less than $50.
That 31/32", 10-spline, 1800RPM, reverse-rotation PTO on the Cub is unique to the Cub. I believe the reasons for it were twofold
The PTO spline mentioned above is also on some Cub Cadets. Just purchased an adaptor changing to a standard 1 3/8" 6 spline from a Case/IH dealer. $9.?? (Nine dollars and change).
Another opinion. You might consider future uses for the tractor. Suggest looking for a medium sized tractor with live PTO, live hydraulics and 3-point.
Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:07 pm
Saginaw County Tractor makes a very nice 3pt hitch for H's and M's. Its not cheap but does a fantastic job. Its cat. 2 and has 2 cylinders with plumbing potential for down pressure.
Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:43 pm
Go with the H.Ilove using mine around here.In the garden or in the yard.I have a bush hog the really cuts grass nice!!!Wouldn't trade it for anything.PS plenty of power for me.
Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:16 am
Looked at an H yesterday and was
surprised to see that the very worn out pto belt pulley on the side of the H was made of wood, it was worn right down to the grain
Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:14 am
Wood would be unusual. They were typically metal or the most common were made from paper.
Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:40 am
Bigdog wrote:Wood would be unusual. They were typically metal or the most common were made from paper.
Maybe it was paper because i could see what appeared to be wood grain but I think multiple layers of paper would have the same look but still a surprise, I would have thought the pulley was a steel drum wrapped with a rubber strip..... Always cool to look at the big iron, sure wish I had more land so I could have an H or M
Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:03 am
I'm on 5 acres[7 acres or horse pasture next us]Couple of people around here have city lots with tractors[show or parade]Depends on what you want to spend.I llok at it this way,My bike took many many places,My tractor keeps me home.HaHa!!!!!
Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:44 pm
its wood I went back today for a second look and sure enough its a wood pulley renforced with steel.........
Ketcham, I on 2 1/4 acre of soft always wet ground an H would just make a mess here
Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:33 am
True.I still making a mess around here.
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