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Farmall M, Super M, 400, 450 & 560 Tractors, 1939-1963

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My 52 Super M (pic's)

Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:57 pm

This is my 1952 stage 1 Super M. It need's tire's, a steering wheel and a better paint job, I have the decal's to put on when I find the time to paint it. Busy with my 48 cub. :)

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TF1

Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:01 pm

Neat!!! :D

Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:47 am

Boy, that looks GREAT :!: :lol: :!: just a :?: here, what does "Stage 1" mean :?:

looks great!!!

Johnny

Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:51 am

TF - yer makin' me drool here! I might have to adjust the homing beacon for larger tractors! 8)

Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:35 pm

jostev wrote:Boy, that looks GREAT :!: :lol: :!: just a :?: here, what does "Stage 1" mean :?:


A quick primer on "Super" letter-series Farmalls:

Stage I: Increased horsepower, added disk brakes and faster gearing. Otherwise, the same as the regular letter series.
Stage II: Added distributor-drive "live" hydraulics as a factory option, relocated battery to a box under the seat. Other miscellaneous refinements added.
Stage III: Added live PTO and Torque Amplifier, as well as other minor refinements.

The Stage III Super M is also known as the Super MTA. There was never a Stage III Super H produced, though there are a few "clones" out there. It was rolled into the Farmall 300.

This all happened over the course of roughly 3 years. IH released the technology gradually, presumably due to the fear that too much at once would "overwhelm" the farmers, who were deemed to be too dumb to deal with fancy gadgets and thingamabobs...

Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:16 pm

tractorfan
that is nice looks alot like mine matt thanks for the info. would you know how much psi the regular m belly pump produces?
john

Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:12 pm

I have a 1947 with the narrow front but i like the wide front a lot.

Fri May 05, 2006 5:30 am

Hey Brett...VERY NICE "M" :wink: Does yours have the 5th. gear (road gear option)? The wide fronts on the "M" are so much more practical and safer to use than the tricycle fronts! :wink:

Fri May 05, 2006 1:59 pm

Country,

She does have 5th gear, but is too fast for me :). The wide front's steer easier but I like the look's of a narrow front better. Thank's for the kind word's guy's! :wink:


TF1

Fri May 05, 2006 3:50 pm

Hey Brett...My 1946 M had the road gear too! 5th. gear is rated at 16 1/2 m.p.h. (but my buddy Dennis clocked me going a rip-roarin' 20 m.p.h. on my M when I was still livin' up in New Jersey! :shock: It seemed fast to me too, but that's just because of the openess of the tractor, and the height too I suspect. Still, I'd be going 16 or 18 m.p.h. down a 2 lane road in Jersey and the uppies would still give me the "You're Number 1 In New Jersey Salute" from their B.M.W.'s as I waived them around me!!! :shock:

Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:47 am

Just had to bring this thrread back up, can anyone tell what a torque amplifier is? How about the wide frount axle is that rare on an M?

Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:28 am

Jackman - Torque Amplifier was IH's name for what was essentially an on-the-go downshift. This allowed you to slow groundspeed in tough ground without stopping to downshift to a lower gear. It was great for plowing or groundwork in fields with varying soil conditions. It was introduced late in the letter series production M (MTA was the designation) tractors and was very much a selling point in the new "number series" tractors.

Wide front ends were not necessarily rare - they were quite common in some areas and not so common in others.

Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:14 pm

AFTER PLOWING UP SOME LAND IT IS OFTEN "HILLY'.I FIND THE TRICYCLE FRONT ENDS DON'T YANK ON YOUR ARMS AS BAD AS WIDE FRONT END.TRACYS 621 FORD DOES THE PLOWING,MY 50 H DOES THE DISCING.THE FORD REALLY YANKED HARD GOING OVER THE BUMPS.THE TRICYCLE FRONT END WAS PRETTY SMOOTH.I HAVE 5TH GEAR ON MY H AND I DRIVE IT DOWN THE ROAD SO OFTEN.20 MILES AN HOUR ON A TRACTOR SEEMS REAL FAST!!!!WE GET THOSE #1 SALUITES AROND MY HOUSE TOO!!!!!KETCHAM PS NICE M !!!!CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY 50 H AS NICE.

Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:55 pm

Bigdog wrote:Jackman - Torque Amplifier was IH's name for what was essentially an on-the-go downshift. This allowed you to slow groundspeed in tough ground without stopping to downshift to a lower gear. It was great for plowing or groundwork in fields with varying soil conditions. It was introduced late in the letter series production M (MTA was the designation) tractors and was very much a selling point in the new "number series" tractors.



Thanks Big Dog I am learning cool :D ..... Does this torque amplifier kick in automaticly or is it controled by the operator? How about a visual , can you tell if the M has the torque amplifier just by looking at the tractor?

Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:04 pm

Operator controlled. Lever on the left side of the operators platform just forward of the front corner. At least that's where it was on our 560D.
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