transaxle interchange?

[junkman1946]

I have never had the pleasure of seeing an Original Cub up close and personal. Is the transaxlw housing the same as the next series. i.e. 105, 108. Thanks Frank

[wdeturck]

The Original is different(as usual) if you are talking about the entire trans-axle. The reduction housings and the axle housings are different. The basic trans-axle are basically the same(i think three is a different second gear in some of them. The Original transmission shaft will be different also.

[Scott]

Frank,
Not sure if these will help or not...
http://photos.cubfest.com/thumbnails.php?album=163

[junkman1946]

Many thanks guys Gezzers explanation plus Scottys pics made it all crystal clear to me. Heres the story; Buddy of mine got his hands on an "original" original decided he wanted to make a puller. Put a 2 cyl. Kohler in it. The rest is history.

[BigBill]

Since the cub cadet tranny is the same as the one in my 154(housing) I was wondering that too along the lines of gear ratio's is there a lower gear setup in the cub cadet that i can use in my 154 to make it a stump puller? I was wondering if there was different gear ratio's in the ring and pinions too.

I like to go slow in low when i do any heavy work with any of my tractors. Even with my jeep tractor i plow snow at an idle too.

[Paul B]

The gear ratio's both in the transmission and the ring gear are the same, although there were 3 different 2nd speed ratios used over the years (16 tooth, 17 tooth and 19 tooth) in both the Cubs and the Cub Cadets. The cub cadets have a 7 to 1 gear reduction before the transmission (located in the housing on the front of the trans case), and the Cubs and 154-174 have the reduction in the final drives (commonly called drop boxes). The gear reduction on the Original comes from both the different size of the two drive belt pulleys and the gear reduction on the front of the trans case, but the overall reduction is still right at 7 to 1 like in the other model of IH built Cub Cadets (except the 482,582 Special and 1100, and hydros).

[Clark Thompson]

there are many different gear ratios in the cub cadet trannys. the cub cadets have the same tranny as in the Farmall cub and numbered series loboys up to the 8800 series cadets. These cadets have a whole different trans all though they look almost the same. There are a few different ring and pinion sizes also. for instance a farmall cub has 55teeth on the ring gear while certain cadets have 46 teeth. also the ring gear in the cadets are flipped over because there is no finaldrives or so called drop boxes or drop axels. So far in the cadets i have found about 6 different gear ratios for second and third. seems all have the same first and reverse.

[BigBill]

I was wondering if there is a lowered gear ratio for the ring and pinion for my 154? Or one that fits it from a CC or farmall? It would be nice to have a lower second and third gear too this way those gears would get more use too.

If you were pulling with your CC, FC or INTC having the lower gears sure would make a difference but you'll have to add suitcase weights too balance it out. I'd like to see what kind of weight these little guys could pull if we tricked one out.

[Paul B]

The parts manual's for the IH built Cubs, including the numbered Lo-Boy's, and the IH built Cub Cadets, only list a 46 tooth ring gear for the differential, and only three second gear ratios - 16, 17, and 19 tooth for the sliding gear (36, 35, and 33 tooth for the fixed gear). All the other gear ratios are the same in both the Cubs and Cub Cadets

[BigBill]

If I flip the ring gear back over in a cub cadet then i can put the 154 final drives on it and it will turn the correct direction. Right?? Hmm......I think we have a winner here or a great project about to start.

[George Willer]

If I flip the ring gear back over in a cub cadet then i can put the 154 final drives on it and it will turn the correct direction. Right?? Hmm......I think we have a winner here or a great project about to start.

You're on the right track, Bill... providing you are using an F-Cub input shaft from a C-60 engine.