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1A Tiller mounting plate

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pharmerphil3
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1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby pharmerphil3 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:36 pm

As I had mentioned last week I purchased a 1A tiller, but it was missing the gearbox & mounting plate. I have discovered these are difficult to find. I have the ability to make my own plate; but I will need your help getting the dimensions; height, width, depth and hole lay out. As always, any help will be appreciated.

Thank you,
Phil

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Re: 1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby gitractorman » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:01 pm

Phil,
I'll keep an eye out for a mounting plate for you. In the meantime, below is a photo of my old 149 with the tiller drive. You should be able to get close enough on the dimensions from this photo. You already have the most important part, the width of the mounting arms on the tiller.

If I were making one, I'd make the tongue for the hitch integral to that plate instead of bolting the factory hitch back on. If I remember correctly, that is the one piece that you have to take on and off to put the tiller on and off. The hitch just stuck out about an inch too far, and would hit the tiller, but a small tab sticking out an inch, just enough to get a pin through, would have worked and would not have been in the way.

Good luck,
Bill
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pharmerphil3
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22 Sickle Mower
193 Plow
54-Plow
59 Wood's Mower
2030 John Deere
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Monroe

Re: 1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby pharmerphil3 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:08 am

Thank you Bill, this will be very helpful. Another question I have; are the internal gears of the snow thrower gearbox the same as the tiller?

Thanks again for all your help!
Phil

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Mitsubishi MT180D 4x4 Diesel
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Re: 1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby gitractorman » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:26 am

Yes, the gears inside the boxes are the same. There may be a difference in the pulley sizes, and I had the two next to each other (literally, see the pic below) but never looked at it that closely at the time.

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As you can see, these photos are from 2002 and that is when I sold the package. Kind of miss it all now, but it was time to move on.

Bill
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pharmerphil3
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Zip Code: 06468
Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub
1955 Cub
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1963 Cub
1964 Cub Cadet 70
1969 Cub Cadet 125
100 Spreader
144 Cultivator
3 Field Cultivator
22 Sickle Mower
193 Plow
54-Plow
59 Wood's Mower
2030 John Deere
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Monroe

Re: 1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby pharmerphil3 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:11 pm

Thanks again Bill, I purchased on Ebay the two pulleys that will mount onto the gearbox; now I need to make the mounting plate. As for moving on, I tend to hold onto everything! :D

Take care,
Phil

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1951 Farmall Cub
1977 IH Cub
1966 IH Cub
1965 IH Lo Boy
1964 IH Lo Boy
1949 Farmall Cub
Several IH 154 Lo Boys
1979 IH 184 Lo Boy
Simplicity 4416 Sovereign
Simplicity Conquest
Simplicity Legacy 4x4 Diesel
Mitsubishi MT180D 4x4 Diesel
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Grand Island, NY

Re: 1A Tiller mounting plate

Postby gitractorman » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:13 pm

Yea, there's lots that I've wished I held on to. Unfortunately, growing up with a father who sells this equipment, there was always another tractor just waiting, so we never really held on to anything. He'd say,"It's just a tractor. I've got a whole shop full of them." On the positive side, I've had LOTS of Cubs and Cub Cadets to play with over the years, so I can't complain.

I've got a 105 here in my shop now that I just moved in today. It's going to get a complete overhaul. Someone already put a brand new Kohler 14-hp engine in it, but they butchered the frame doing it. So I've got another frame that I'm going to modify the correct way and then build up the new tractor. It's going to be a Cub Cadet 145, something that never existed from the factory.

Good luck with the mounting plate. It should not be too difficult to figure out.
Bill
Cub Cadets 682, 1811, 1864, Simplicity Legacy XL 4x4 Diesel with FEL, 60" mower, 50" Tiller


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