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Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby sdurnal » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:12 am

A buddy or mine in Iowa let the smoke out of his 1450 electric PTO clutch and wants to convert to manual engagement. Anyone have experience, or is it possible? Thanks. (no I don't have a 1450, hehe)

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Re: Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby gitractorman » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:29 am

I'd say it will be a lot harder than he thinks to change over to a manual PTO clutch. None of the brackets or levers are made into the quietline frames to support the engagement levers.

I just replaced the PTO clutch on my 1811 with one from PPowersales on e-bay. It was less than half the cost of a new OEM PTO clutch, and a million times better. It was even less than the dealer cost for a new OEM one! Quick and easy to install too, and after using it all summer to mow at my hunting camp, I'm happy to report zero problems!

Here is a link to one for a quietline tractor: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Cub-Cadet-Fr ... 3a93fc30df

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Re: Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby BigBill » Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:52 pm

eBay used ones, new ones
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby gitractorman » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:36 am

After taking a few original ones apart, I decided that the "good/used" ones on e-bay were just waiting to fall apart, like the original. There's not an easy way to remove the PTO clutch without damaging it, especially after being on a tractor for 20 years or so. Not saying that it cannot be done, but it is VERY easy to really screw up one when you take it off and not know any better, and not be able to test it. Matter of fact, I saw several that I worked on which would engage on the bench (you could hear the magnet engaging, but the clutch itself was worn so bad that you could still turn it by hand.

Anyway, in doing a lot of research, the one I found above really shows some significant advantages over the original. Now that I actually have one in operation every week, I can tell you that it truly is INCREADIBLY better than the original clutch. It draws a lot less current, engages much better, and has no adjustments, so there's no way to be wearing out the clutch without knowing it (like the original). So, as I said above, if you have one that you plan to use every week, normal mowing or snow blowing, and want to use it for a long time, I'd invest in this one!

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Re: Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby TurboRoadster » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:43 am

I get electric clutches off of craigslist used mowers like Toros and such. these mowers are common used and can usually pick the whole tractor up for under 50-75. I have a few electric clutches on the shelf, was thinking of using one with an air compressor and wiring it to activate at certain psi.
Just an idea to maybe find what you need cheap, used, but cheap.

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Re: Electric clutch convewrsion

Postby gitractorman » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:02 am

I hear you Roadster, but the front mounted Cub Cadet clutches are specific to Cub Cadets, and not interchangeable or replaceable with ones from bottom mount units. Also, like I said above, it's pretty tough to take one off of a 20+ yr old tractor without beating it to hell and back trying to get it off the crank shaft. After going through all of that, between the age of the clutch, and the fact it's now been beat to hell, there's no way I'd waste my time putting it on a machine that I depend on every day. I've seen people do it, and I've replaced those same clutches a year or two later. So, I don't work that way and I don't advise anyone to work that way. If someone is "flipping" equipment to make a buck, then sure, put the cheapo clutch on it, and hope that it lasts a year or two so the buyer can loose your phone number and address. Again, I don't like to work that way. I'm always looking for a way to make every machine I own/use/work on, better than it was when I got it.

My recommendation above stands, this PTO clutch from PPowerSales is by far the best PTO clutch option that I've found, and I've installed several now and everybody loves them! They work better, take less juice to run, they stay cooler which helps with belt life, and it's cheaper than the OEM replacement. So, all benefits in my book.

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