Hello everyone,
I am hoping to pick your brains or research information on starting a sunflower field from scratch.
My wife and I are in the early stages of restoring and renovating her grandparents' house that they built in the 1940s. It is on 47 acres, most of which is woodland. However, we have roughly about an acre to the left of our driveway that leads down to a pond, and in the 1960s, this area held sheep. Thus, while overgrown, it has little in the way of large growth, such as trees (I mean, there are some, but I think they would be pretty simple to clear). I always have wanted to plant a sunflower field, and this area would be perfect for it. However, one cannot be more of a novice than I am when it comes to clearing, cultivating and planting something of that nature. Fortunately, I have the clearing part down, because my wife's cousins own a small horse/cow farm next to us and he has a brushcutter. However, in terms of cultivating and growing ... no clue.
I have a bag of soil that I am shipping off to the local university to get tested. I am assuming that at some point I'll need a Farmall Cub with a planter (preferably), and the necessary implements. Right now my only IH is a Cub Cadet 105 for mowing, though an IH tractor and pickup are in the plans. I was hoping you could share with me some things that I would need to do, what I would need, etc. Or, just as important, if you know of any websites where I can find this information. Right now, I'm really just curious how to turn overgrowth into a field that is ready for planting. I joke with my wife that we should call this 'Pricker Acres' because I believe we have half of the world's supply of prickers in this area. I took a walk around it Saturday (it was 65 degrees here in Connecticut ... unbelievable) and came out with a bunch of scratches and two ticks!
I have attached five photos. I know it is kind of hard to grasp the size of this, but you can get an idea for what we would like to do. Some of the trees near the road might gobble up the sunshine in the summer, so that will have to be evaluated. Right now our neighbors use these for their maple syrup production. Our local fire department asked if they could use our pond and said they would clean out all the dead wood, which we happily obliged.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Brian
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Growing a sunflower field from scratch
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
You're on the right track in getting the soil samples analyzed for lime and fertilizer needs. Sounds like your wife's cousin can be of help with equipment needs initially. Next, I suggest that you visit your local County Extension office to get advice on growing sunflowers in your area. You don't say how large of an area you want to plant, but I assume it's probably not large enough to require harvesting with a combine. Once you get the soil tilled up, broadcast seeding will probably be the easiest method to use. Keep us posted.
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
For the first year, you may want to just clear the land, cut down the weeds and brush, chemically kill the weeds, and have it plowed (turned over). If your wife's cousin can't do the plowing, you can hire to have the land tilled. Advertisements on Craigslist for Garden Tilling can at least get you a quotation. Tilling or disking after plowing will produce a smoother field surface that is easier to plant.
As Dan mentioned, broadcast seeding is easiest. A drag can be used to cover the seed. Ideally the seeds are covered with 1.5" - 2" of soil. To get this result, plow, broadcast seed, then drag. The seeds will fall and get dragged into the troughs of the plowed field and the drag will pull soil from the high points of the plowed field onto the seeds in the troughs. You will end up with mostly rows of sunflowers.
Note: There are lots of different types of sunflower. The big ones get very stalky and will need to be brush hogged at the end of the season.
As Dan mentioned, broadcast seeding is easiest. A drag can be used to cover the seed. Ideally the seeds are covered with 1.5" - 2" of soil. To get this result, plow, broadcast seed, then drag. The seeds will fall and get dragged into the troughs of the plowed field and the drag will pull soil from the high points of the plowed field onto the seeds in the troughs. You will end up with mostly rows of sunflowers.
Note: There are lots of different types of sunflower. The big ones get very stalky and will need to be brush hogged at the end of the season.
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
Be glad you don't have to do it this way: http://www.sctimes.com/story/life/2015/02/14/pioneers-farming-started-stump-clearing/23418141/
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
47 acres. Suggest your first tractor be something much larger than the IH Cub and with more modern provisions.
My son and I cleared a 16 acre pasture, over grown with mostly eastern red cedar. Cut the cedar off at ground level, piled, burned in winter. Also hired a dozer, working on adjacent farm, to clear around 1 1/2 acres.
Still working on about a 1/4 acre of assorted hard wood trees. We cut the trees off leaving about 4' of stump above ground. Herbicide to kill sprouts. Spray and mow around the stumps. Several years later, most roots rotted off, tractor and chain attached to the 4' stump, pull the stump out of the ground. The tree trunks and large limbs cut into fire wood. Smaller branches piled around the stump and burnt in winter.
Smaller clumps of hard wood trees, sprayed with herbicide to kill the trees. Larger single trees, built a fire around the base of the tree to kill it. Girdled the cedar trees below the first limb to kill them.
Planted sunflowers in a portion of the deer food plot. Turkey and other birds love sunflowers.
My son and I cleared a 16 acre pasture, over grown with mostly eastern red cedar. Cut the cedar off at ground level, piled, burned in winter. Also hired a dozer, working on adjacent farm, to clear around 1 1/2 acres.
Still working on about a 1/4 acre of assorted hard wood trees. We cut the trees off leaving about 4' of stump above ground. Herbicide to kill sprouts. Spray and mow around the stumps. Several years later, most roots rotted off, tractor and chain attached to the 4' stump, pull the stump out of the ground. The tree trunks and large limbs cut into fire wood. Smaller branches piled around the stump and burnt in winter.
Smaller clumps of hard wood trees, sprayed with herbicide to kill the trees. Larger single trees, built a fire around the base of the tree to kill it. Girdled the cedar trees below the first limb to kill them.
Planted sunflowers in a portion of the deer food plot. Turkey and other birds love sunflowers.
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
You can farm it the first year,-- IF you get a serious dozer with a root rake in there to remove the brush/shrubs/trees and weeds. The dozer can get about all of the nasty stuff out plus leaving the ground ready to disk and plant.----NOW,-- this probably won't be cheap or free, but it wont take long to clear that area. You can then get on to important things needing to be done. Don't know what custom dozer owners in your area charge, so you might want to check this method out before you invest in a lot of un-needed equipment. thanks; sonny
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Economic decision. Your time and labor vs. hiring a dozer. Some time ago it cost me $1000- for the dozer clearing about 1 1/2 acre. Probably took the dozer 2 to 3 hours. In this area getting a dozer operator to come out, or schedule a small job is a problem, unless they are working on adjacent property.
Quality, heavy duty weed eaters with brush blade will clear quite a bit of brush and weeds is short order.
Something else we used to clear land, kill weeds and brush, is a 15 gallon 12 volt sprayer with herbicide.
Quality, heavy duty weed eaters with brush blade will clear quite a bit of brush and weeds is short order.
Something else we used to clear land, kill weeds and brush, is a 15 gallon 12 volt sprayer with herbicide.
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
Everyone,
Thanks for the replies. A big help so far. The total area that I plan to farm is about an acre, plus or minus. So it's not very big in the grand scheme of things.
I could have access to a bulldozer (this same cousin with the brush cutter is a commercial builder, so I'm sure he has access). Something to consider. Did IH make a broadcast spreader? Seems like the 172 and/or 174 planters are hard to come by in my research, though I would love to find one once I acquire a Cub.
I live in Connecticut about a mile from the shoreline. There is a very popular sunflower field about 45 minutes away called Buttonwood Farms that is a few acres in size. While not looking to do anything of that size, I'm hoping to get a good acre out of this. Being so close to a pond, I'm hoping that the soil will have plenty of nutrients.
What implements should I get besides a spreader?
Brian
Thanks for the replies. A big help so far. The total area that I plan to farm is about an acre, plus or minus. So it's not very big in the grand scheme of things.
I could have access to a bulldozer (this same cousin with the brush cutter is a commercial builder, so I'm sure he has access). Something to consider. Did IH make a broadcast spreader? Seems like the 172 and/or 174 planters are hard to come by in my research, though I would love to find one once I acquire a Cub.
I live in Connecticut about a mile from the shoreline. There is a very popular sunflower field about 45 minutes away called Buttonwood Farms that is a few acres in size. While not looking to do anything of that size, I'm hoping to get a good acre out of this. Being so close to a pond, I'm hoping that the soil will have plenty of nutrients.
What implements should I get besides a spreader?
Brian
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
I've had a 12 volt spreader for years. I think, designed to be ATV mounted. I mount it on a universal carrier. Spreads pelletized lime, fertilizer, and seeds.duckpin wrote:What implements should I get besides a spreader?
Suggest waiting a while before purchasing a tractor and implements. Talk to neighbors for their suggestions. Make a long term plan for the property.
Check with your local state/federal farm and conservation agencies. My local one has equipment available, free loan. Also check for conservation programs and resources. Some programs have financial assistance and offer classes on different topics.
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Re: Growing a sunflower field from scratch
For as little space as you are planting, one of these would suffice.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Chapin-25-Lbs-Lb-Capacity-Handheld-Lawn-Spreader/1000057745?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-LawnGarden-_-SosLGFertilizer,ChemControls-_-1000057745:Chapin&CAWELAID=&kpid=1000057745&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=959e5cc2-94c0-4bca-8e5f-d5110e4b756c
Something like this as a tow behind would be easy as well.
http://www.searsoutlet.com/d/product_details.jsp?pid=74&mode=seeAll&sid=IDx20110411x000008&scid=scplpN99174&sc_intid=N99174&gclid=CJm1qJjEtdICFVE1aQodkQkPNA
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Chapin-25-Lbs-Lb-Capacity-Handheld-Lawn-Spreader/1000057745?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-LawnGarden-_-SosLGFertilizer,ChemControls-_-1000057745:Chapin&CAWELAID=&kpid=1000057745&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=959e5cc2-94c0-4bca-8e5f-d5110e4b756c
Something like this as a tow behind would be easy as well.
http://www.searsoutlet.com/d/product_details.jsp?pid=74&mode=seeAll&sid=IDx20110411x000008&scid=scplpN99174&sc_intid=N99174&gclid=CJm1qJjEtdICFVE1aQodkQkPNA
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