Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

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Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:26 am

First off I want to take the time to say hello and that I'm new to the board. I always follow multiple boards for any questions that I have but this one is a little tricky. I've always been into the letter series or the F series tractors so the lo boys are new to me. I'm looking to purchase one and the guy wants 1600 for it. I seem to think it's a little steep but I could be wrong he says that the motor smokes a little and there are a few cosmetic issues. I'd post some pictures but I'm not entirely sure on how to do that. Any input would be appreciated.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:32 am

It only comes with a belly mower if that helps a little too

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Eugene » Thu May 18, 2017 11:18 am

My opinion, $1600- is about right for the tractor, providing it's in decent, working condition.

A belly mower is what the tractor was designed for, and it's most common implement.
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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Thu May 18, 2017 11:20 am

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I think I figured it out

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu May 18, 2017 2:37 pm

Eugene wrote:My opinion, $1600- is about right for the tractor, providing it's in decent, working condition.

A belly mower is what the tractor was designed for, and it's most common implement.
Agree with Eugene, any other options will add to the value. IMHO the 184 is the most desirable of the number series because it has a conventional starter instead of a starter/generator which tends to be a little slower turning the engine. I'm sure others may differ.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Thu May 18, 2017 9:26 pm

I appreciate the responses so quickly. When I was looking at some of the different forums that was back in 2000, and 2001 and I read a bunch of people asking the same question and they were only worth about 600 to 1000 dollars at that time. Obviously times are different and with that some of these old tractors are probably getting hard to come by. I'm meeting with the gentleman Saturday evening to look at it so hopefully I get to bring the ol girl home "fingers crossed". what are things that I should look for when I'm looking at the cub? I assuming the PTO clutch and the correct operation of the hydraulics? He said that the motor smoked so that wont be a surprise.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Larry B » Thu May 18, 2017 11:34 pm

From the pictures the tractor is missing the plastic grill and the metal mesh screen. If you are going to mow with it you will need them or grass will clog the radiator. It is also missing a cover panel on the right side. I would check compression since it is a smoker. Check radiator for rust. Check mower deck spindle and pulley bearings.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Thu May 18, 2017 11:48 pm

Larry B wrote:From the pictures the tractor is missing the plastic grill and the metal mesh screen. If you are going to mow with it you will need them or grass will clog the radiator. It is also missing a cover panel on the right side. I would check compression since it is a smoker. Check radiator for rust. Check mower deck spindle and pulley bearings.


Thank you! Where can I find the plastic part of the grille? I can find the mesh ones all day online. Do they interchange with another tractor? And I'm assuming the side panel you are talking about goes under the dash I believe I can see where it would go. Possibly looks like the other side may be missing too.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 am

You could post a WANTED add on THE VINE, Classified forum and check with Hamilton Bob, forum sponsor. Parts unique to the number series are not too plentiful since there were not a lot produced. Some of the mechanical parts are the same as a FCub. You'll have to check the parts manuals to see which ones.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Fri May 19, 2017 8:52 am

staninlowerAL wrote:You could post a WANTED add on THE VINE, Classified forum and check with Hamilton Bob, forum sponsor. Parts unique to the number series are not too plentiful since there were not a lot produced. Some of the mechanical parts are the same as a FCub. You'll have to check the parts manuals to see which ones.


Thank you I appreciate it! If I decide to bite the bullet I'll have to post picture of it. I've got 5 acres of shin high grass so I'll have to invest in that grill and a good fluid change. Hopefully the engine isn't too shot. I'm assuming that the hydraulics are ran off the fluid in the differential, my assumption like the cub cadets is that the differential filled with hytran?

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby gitractorman » Fri May 19, 2017 9:19 am

You're correct, the hydraulics are run from the hytran fluid in the rear differential. The 184 has a spin-on hydraulic oil filter, mounted up next to the seat, so you don't have to crawl under the tractor to chang it like on a Cub Cadet. Otherwise, very similar.

Check with Hamilton Bob's, a site sponsor, for any parts. He has the grill parts available and is a great resource! You'll want to do a tune-up and fluid changes, grease everything good, sharpen the blades, clean the deck, and make sure it's level and adjusted properly. I know that those decks need to be set correctly front to back, in order to mow tall grass. I cannot remmeber if it's a 1/4" higher in the front or lower in the front (someone here should chime in) but it makes a HUGE difference in how the mower will cut, especially in tall grass. I think it's higher in the front but double check. Also, the full manuals are available above, just check around on the manual server button above.

The 184 is a great machine. I've had several of them and let them go, and now wish I had one to play with. I'd run some Sea Foam in the oil, some in the gas, and pour some in the spark plug holes when doing the tune-up. I've seen cub smokers that really cleaned up with a Sea Foam treatment. Also, make sure to use a standard 30-weight, non detergent oil. Sometimes the smoking happens with 10w-30 or 5w-30 standard oils that folks often use, and the straight 30-wt non detergent oil can help with this too, but often it's just ring wear and showing signs of it's age.

I don't think that price is bad if the tractor runs and mows good. It's obviously seen it's share of work and showing it's age, so it should be in very good mechanical condition to warrant that price (in my opinion). If it needs anything mechanically, I would think it should be more in the $1000 range, but it's hard to say and a lot has to do with availability and your "want" for the machine.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri May 19, 2017 9:50 am

Mower deck set lower to the ground in the front so your blades don't cut the grass twice. Creeper set up is valuable in tall grass also.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Greg Armstrong » Fri May 19, 2017 10:02 am

I think the price is about right. I gave 1600 for my 184 and it doesn't have the mounts for the front blade (which can be harder to find than a blade). It was a little better in the cosmetics department, but certainly not a show queen. At the most recent oil change I put in 10w-30 synthetic and no smoke, but it didn't before either. Multi-viscosity oils have come a long way since this tractor was produced, though I would probably stay with 30w if it's smoking now - we can turn any thread into an oil discussion (just do a search and you'll see what I mean). I believe all decks should be slightly lower in the front so that the tip of the blades cuts the grass and not the whole blade (where it's dull). I mowed some shin high grass with mine last year after I moved to our 5 acre property and in 1st gear it didn't do too bad - bogged down some, but it badly needed a carb rebuild, plugs, and governor/throttle cable adjustment. If it's tuned up, you should be ok as long and you keep it in 1st and maybe don't take a full deck width cut - you might need raise the deck a little and do it twice.

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Fri May 19, 2017 6:59 pm

All wonderful information I appreciate it all. The ol lady gave me the do we really need it conversation and I said yes I'm the man of the house what I say goes... I'm currently on my way home from being gone all week due to work. So I'll see what kind of a$$ whipping I receive :shock:

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Re: Newbie and a value question for a 184 loboy

Postby Cummins92 » Sun May 21, 2017 11:09 pm

Well... it turns out I made out like a bandit! I wish I would have snagged some photos before I had left for work. I'll try getting the ol lady to go to the garage and take a few tomorrow... I showed up and we agreed on 1500 for the cub. Little did I know that it came with a plow, the original set of front wheels, and set of tire chains. The motor smokes pretty bad it needs a good rebuild. I believe the cylinders got washed down.... I looked at the air filter and it was completely black and plugged. It was dated for feb of 86.... I ordered about 200 dollars worth of parts for it and I'll be tearing in to the ol girl Friday night. I'll have to rebuild the motor this winter but for now I'm going to try to get it to where she will mow. Stay tuned for pictures and updates!


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