154-Converting starter-gen to std starter & ring gear

[willys55]

this is something I was planning to do with the 154 I just bought......the farmall cub 6 volt or 12 volt starter will work with a slight trimming on the frame.......not a fan of how slow the starter/generator system works on it and that is why I planned the conversion.

[64/67lo-boy]

Stan the standard cub starter ring gear will fit on a 154 fly wheel. At least on a 1974.

[staninlowerAL]

Pete, Thanks for the information. Mine is a '72, I've not been able to work on this lately as "life" gets in the way. It's still on my "project list".

[Mike H]

Stan
Hopefully we will get started on the 185 by the end of oct.
waiting on the bank now for the farm,, closing in mid oct.
Mike

[BigBill]

There's a vertical gusset in the frame when you remove the starter hole cover that needs a radious cut in it to match the bore that the starter goes in. I was thinking of using the push button switch to replace the solinoid. Less things to go wrong. The orginal 154 flywheel is cutout to fit the fcub ring gear. You need st sweat it on then c clamp it so it stays in place when it cools. Check to see if the ring gear is beveled on the inside so it may go on one way. I believe the teeth are angled so that goes towards the started. Wether you Dutchman the ring gear to the flywheel is up to you. I been stocking up on the fcub gear starters to do this conversion.

[willys55]

the loboy 184 comes from the factory setup for what you want on this 154......why dont you source the parts for 184 and look to the repair manual for the 184 for how it is all installed?

[Mike H]

You can source any of the C 60 engines for parts.
I am finding parts for the regular cub loboy that will work [not the numbered]
Ya its a 6 volt starter but as long as you dont grind on a long time you wont hurt it

Mike

[RaymondDurban]

the loboy 184 comes from the factory setup for what you want on this 154......why dont you source the parts for 184 and look to the repair manual for the 184 for how it is all installed?

The frames are different (wider) on the 184 than those used on the 154. As was mentioned earlier, one will have to cut out a portion the frame to get the starter to fit and bolt up to the engine. Not an ideal situation in my opinion, as the frame will have a high likelihood to bend in this area unless its reinforced in some way.

[willys55]

welding a gusset along the edge of the cut away would solve that problem, as far as the frame being wider......has any one seen or know of a spec sheet on the frames that is available?

[64/67lo-boy]

Hey Stan where are you at with your starter swap? Here's what I've done so far.

starter block off

showing gusset obstructing hole

[64/67lo-boy]

had to post again picture was to big

front view after piece was cut out

from back side after piece is cut out

piece that was removed with torch

Not trying to jack your post just thought this info should be all together for future referancing

[staninlowerAL]

Hi Pete, I still have not done anything except have a 6v starter converted to a bolt for the battery cable attachment. One day.............. Thanks for the pictures.

[Eugene]

I haven't chimed in because my answer does not directly correspond to the initial question.

The starter generator is a fairly simple rebuild. Parts should be available from your nearest auto parts store. There are also shops that repair starters and generators. Both options are much cheaper than purchasing a rebuild one.

Edit. Way back, a board member, Deputy Jailer, serviced Delco generators and starters. I purchased starter field windings from him.

[staninlowerAL]

Thanks, Eugene. I don't think I actually said why I would like to do this mod. One reason I would like to do this is to see if it can be successfully done. Another is to be able to have a single wire 12v alternator charging system with the added benefit of a more reliable starting system. Stan

[Mike H]

we are still hung up with snow here ,,about 3-4 feet on the flat
the bank holding up the sale of the farm reallt threw a wrench into projects [closed 12/29/17]
looking at the switch on the starter system and running a seprate wire for it

Mike