Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby wagonmaster » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:45 pm

watched your video also. I think a little effort toward getting the 185 running with a little luck would be easier than swapping all those parts.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mozer71 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:32 am

Wagonmaster. You said it and I was thinking the same. The 185 tractor is similar to an upgraded 154 but a stronger frame. Am I wrong? There were significant benefits to be able to replace many parts without splitting the tractor. The 184 is superior in so many ways but the last one I saw, was used around condominiums. That is where dozens lawns mowed in one day. They were SO good that .. I was enamored about the Lo-boy and it was red.There was one fellow who could speak with me. He said they are great but they were all going to ZT. The crew were all smiles and we talked about a few things. In the end, they did lube certain areas.

The deal is that they worked So well that they flat wore them out. It was nothing. Another tractor, a zero turn saves time.
The 154 was put away long before that.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:05 pm

But my donor is a 185. ;)

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mozer71 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:50 pm

Darn. I lost it there but still.. Look for heavier frame sections and maybe that donor was more than the parts thought needed.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:37 am

I had no idea the fame may be better! As soon as the grass becomes dormant, I will roll it into the shop and take a better look at it. For now, its just sitting on a trailer outside waiting. :{_}:
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby wagonmaster » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:44 pm

The 154 and the 185 are the same with the 185 having a few more horse power.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mozer71 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:36 am

Yes this is so good but that frame already had 3 pt and fel. on it. This is important info as to how it was enforced or where it cracked. The 154/ 185 depend upon that frame being straight.
edit: I see it wasn't equipped with a fel. Still there was other bracing and perhaps we see it or the reason it was a donor.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby BigBill » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:49 pm

Years ago I picked up from hamiltonbobscubs cubs a complete creeper setup and dual brake pedal setup for my 154 project. My number 3 154 has a creeper already and it’s awesome I wanted one for my number two 154. My number 1 154 just mows.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:10 am

That 185 looks to be in serviceable condition. Might want to find out what is wrong with the 185 and get it going this winter.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby wagonmaster » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:13 pm

ditto

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:47 pm

Funny Story, for kicks and giggles over the weekend I thought I'd see if the engine would fire up. I was able to get it to turn over but no spark, so I decided to take a look at the points, when I removed the distributor cap, I found it was full of ants, still alive, and falling onto the shop floor. After using half a can of ant killer (starting fluid) I ended up breaking a spark plug wire. The creeper feels sloppy, and the hydraulics are stuck in the retracted position, shoving the lever forward does nothing. Will be fun to see if I can make it live again.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby Greg Armstrong » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:28 pm

ibdilbert wrote:shoving the lever forward does nothing.


IIRC, the hydraulics won't move if the engine isn't running, they are also gravity driven, so you would weight on the 3pt. to lower it.

EDIT: I see you are in Delaware county also... Greetings from Sunbury!

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:09 pm

I just assumed the 3 point was like the deck, it would lower with the engine not running, I even stood on it and tried to lower it. I grew up near Sunbury, Condit Rd / 605 area, on Meredith St. Road.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:55 am

Neither the rockshaft nor the 3-point should move without the engine running.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby BigBill » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:25 am

The 3pt should fall when the lever I moved if the selector is in the 3pt mode. The rocker shaft needs weight on it to go down.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.


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