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Proud new owner of a IH cub 184, you missed one Rowlf!

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:36 pm
by ljw
I bought a Cub down in KY last weekend and I learned (I think) how to post pics tonight and thought I'd show everyone. I guess this is one Cub Rowlf didn't get. And it was in Cold Spring, Rowlf's backyard! :shock: Although I was told it wasn't, the motor was stuck. This past week I removed the head and alternated PB Blaster, Kroil, and Marvel Mystery Oil. It slowly started moving and now it turns freely. I've read that some have towed tractors to free the motors, etc. But I don't if that is a good idea. Upon removing the head I found something like crud, probably signs of water, in one of the cylinders. I think it might have damaged the cylinder if forced to turn without removing the crud. Anyway, I cleaned the cylinders with steel wool and buttoned it back up to check compression. Compression was 55, 0, 75, 75. After adding oil to #2 it was still 0. I re-removed the head and dummy me didn't see the that the exhaust valve on #2 was open all the time. So I removed the valve and polished the crud on the stem, etal. And I put it all back together. I was then called to supper! I can be called just about anything, as long as you call me to supper! Everything will have to wait until tommorrow night.:roll: My concerns are, will the rings free up and give me a higher PSI? and did I really unstick the valve, or just postponing the inevitable? And Rowlf, I'm really sorry. I should have called you and let you have first refusal. :twisted: I would appreciate any thoughts on the matter. Larry

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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:52 am
by Rudi
Larry:

Looks nice 8) , and glad that you got it all under control :D . Funny how much enjoyment we can get out of playing with our toys.

Supper is important. I agree too - you can call me anything ya want, just don't call me late for supper :!: :lol: or lunch :!: :lol: :roll: :lol:

Keep us posted.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:59 am
by Virginia Mike
I see it has the brackets for a front blade. did you get the blade too?
Best,
Mike

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:34 am
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
yup, you have probably unstuck the valves. may need to lapt them, but once it runs a little and you do another compression check you will know more.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:16 pm
by ljw
Thanks for the input. I still don’t have it running. I had to rewire most of the dash and the distributor had been moved. A lot of small problems. But I do have a spark. I did get the scraper blade and a Woods ( I think) 59” mower. The mower doesn’t have any guide wheels and it looks as though it wasn’t made for any. While I was there, I haggled a deal on a 42" Woods mower. Larry

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:03 am
by 'Country' Elliott
Hey Larry...NICE 184 International! :wink: Once you git her runnin' try addin' some SEAFOAM (available at NAPA) to the gas & the oil. It'll help remove the old carbon buildup on your valves and clean your carburetor jets and innerds too! :wink: If you've got the head removed try squirtin' some KROIL into the cylinders and pistons. It'll help free up any stuck rings and clean up the cylinder walls. :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:15 am
by ljw
Country, Those cute little cylinders are soaking in Kroil as we speak! Larry

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:21 am
by 'Country' Elliott
Hey Larry...WAY TO GO SON...GIT-R-DONE and ENJOY your NEW RIDE! :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:33 am
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
The single belt would tend to indicate a Wodds 59, but I've never seen one that looks quite like that one with the large round fornt. Are all 3 blades the same size. housing looks like the center one may be larger.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:02 pm
by Rudi
Larry:

I guess you done real well. Nice batch of implements that you snagged with the deal :!: 8) 8) 8) :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:47 pm
by ljw
John, I looked through the parts I received and found a Woods guard with a 59 loboy model no. I also noticed drilled holes on the deck where guide wheel brackets may have been installed. Each blade measure 20".

Thanks Rudi, I appreciate your input. I paid $500.00 for the tractor and implements. And $135.00 for the 42" mower. I met the PO at an auction where they were auctioning off 2 Cubs. I was standing there critiquing(sp?) the Cubs. When he approached me he said he had a 184 Loboy at home that he wanted "5" for. I thought he meant $5,000.00, and said I would think about it. :roll: After talking with him, I realized it was $500, not $5,000. I remember seeing one on the forum not too long ago, and thought, "Man, I'd love to own one of those!" So I told him on the spot that I would take it. It didn't have a grille housing, but I bought one on Epay for $160.00 including shipping. Ouch! I guess that I just like to spread it around. Larry

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:46 pm
by 400lbsonacubseatspring
Larry,

How is the compression on #2 now that you've cleaned up the exhaust valve and removed all the crud?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:02 pm
by ljw
400 lb'er, If I remember right, it was about 60 psi. I still haven't started it yet. I attempted it a few times by spraying starting fluid in the carb, but no luck. I'll work on it tommorrow if I have time. Larry

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:19 pm
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
LJW, sisne you are having so much trouble with it, I'll come and take it off your hands and not even charge you for the trip. LOL

You got a real buy on that.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:59 pm
by 400lbsonacubseatspring
Oh boy....sounds like you're in the "good enough" zone. With any luck, that engine will just keep getting better once you start running it, and you can put off a total rebuild until you get around to it.

Congrats on what is turning out to be a marvelous bargain!!