Adding a alternator to the int154

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Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby BigBill » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:06 pm

I have a 154 that can use a alternator. It’s just for mowing only. I’m thinking to mount a fcub airfilter out side the hood. Add a one wire alternator under the hood power it from the fan pulley. I’m thinking a pre cleaner.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:16 am

I'm thinking it is good but that is a narrow belt. You already have a starter motor and ring gear .

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:37 pm

mozer71 wrote:I'm thinking it is good but that is a narrow belt. You already have a starter motor and ring gear .

154? Must have been changed sometime in the past.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:01 pm

Right. Must have been.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:17 pm

Assuming the 154 has a ring gear on the fly wheel, will a standard Cub starter fit between the engine and frame?
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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:57 pm

The 154 cross-member has to be altered for the nose of the starter to extend far enough for the starter flange to meet the block and bolt up and the bendix to engage the ring gear. There has been some discussion about the 12v starter being too large to work. I believe a 6v will work within the distance from the block to the water inlet. The top flange of the frame might need to be trimmed a little. It's been done, search the forum for some posts.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:18 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:The top flange of the frame might need to be trimmed a little. It's been done, search the forum for some posts.
I did a search but didn't find the answer. Even though I thought I remembered the topic.

You may be able to exchange the narrow belt pulley on the starter/generator with the alternator pulley, specially if the alternator is a Delco or Delco clone.

Edit. One of the warm(er) winter days I'll remove the bellhousing plate on my 154 to see if the flywheel has a toothed ring gear.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:26 am

This is good stuff. Assuming the flywheel had a ring gear, there are mods to the frame. Bolstered well to replace the structure.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:08 am

Eugene wrote:I did a search but didn't find the answer. Even though I thought I remembered the topic.

I also remember this topic but can't locate it right now. I think Jim Becker posted that the 12v starter is too large to fit because the diameter is changed. The 12v starter also caused some changes to the block (I seem to remember it was the R8 block for 12v). There was also a picture of one that someone had completed the conversion. Dang! It's frustrating when I can't find what I'm looking for.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:22 am

Go for it Stan. You know 10X more than me. Frustration now that is a different thing.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:29 am

I found the post, it was done by 64/67 loboy and had the picture of it mounted in place but now I can't get it to link to this topic. FRUSTRATION!!!!!!!

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:32 am

I mainly want to thank all our fellow brothers of this forum. Thank You! It all comes together by your knowledge.
Having said that, not saying more. You know and there it is.

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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby mozer71 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:48 am

Wonderful things occurred . They are to be remembered .
Hold on now, when we may think our tractors are "dangerous" eh, cough, no way. When your body is healthy you inhale more that sedentry slothe so to be hydrated at all times and expel is normal. We must drink good water even when seemingly cold because we Need internal antifreeze.
This is all cooked up within the body and allows waste as mucous to be expelled.
Here it is. The block of the engine. Said here recently. It gets an issue but can't expel . Put a tighter cap on it but look very recent about actually cleaning the inside of the block. There is all kinds of rust sludge to be scraped or sucked out. A good winter project if it doesn't have the snow plow attached.
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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:04 am

Eugene, Here's the post: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=95868&start=30&hilit=cut+154+cross+member I found it by searching "cut cross member". Thanks to 64/67loboy for the details and this picture on this topic.
starter on 154.JPG
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Re: Adding a alternator to the int154

Postby Eugene » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:18 am

Thanks Stan.
I have an excuse. CRS.


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