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Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby BigBill » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:03 pm

There seems to be two different engine mounted hydraulic pumps for the int number series tractor. There is s short body pump and a long body pump? I’m thinking the longer body is more oil flow for a front end loader? How slow is the front end loader with the shorter pump? How much pressure do these orginal pumps put out?
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby Eugene » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:12 am

GSS-1408, Sept 77, shows two different hydraulic pumps. Listed as above or below serial number U018709.

Above U018709 has an adjustable circuit relief valve. Circuit relief valve, 1550 - 1600 psi.

The specifications for both pumps appear to be the same, 2.5 gpm at 1600 rpms, and 1600 psi.
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby BigBill » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:08 pm

Thanks I was thinking the orginal hyd pimp can operate a fel?
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby SONNY » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:53 am

Loader has to have its own pump.---most of them are pto mounted and you have to take pump off to use mower OR go front mount pump.----Thats what I hear! ----never saw or had one as it would be useless to me since I have 4 skidloaders( various sizes) and 2 580ck backhoes and a 56 Deere 420 loader/backhoe, so I never had the desire to have one. --- They could be handy IF you didnt have anything else to use----very limited on what you could do with one. --- small skidloader much cheaper to buy.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby BigBill » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:50 pm

I have extensive knowledge in machine building, hydraulics, fabrication. I’m thinking it would be a fun project with the kids too. One son is a engineer. I want to cram him with all the hands on I can. He’s very book smart with two degrees in robotics and mechanical engineering. Now with more hands on with different things look out. I think using a 154 loboy as a platform for this build would be perfect for around the yard. I’m not investing too much money so it’s going to sit there after it’s done.

Plus my neighbor said it couldn’t be done,
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:35 am

BigBill wrote:Plus my neighbor said it couldn’t be done,

Now THIS is better motivation! :{_}: Get out the stick welder, :coffee: and later the :beer:
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby Eugene » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:55 am

Plumbing and engineering. You can use a single hydraulic pump for both the loader and mower.

Dual control, dual action control valves or a diverter valve.

You would probably want to change the cylinders over to dual action. The current reservoir would probably be insufficient for multiple single action cylinders.

1600 psi. would work, larger cylinders on the loader.
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Re: Hydraulic Pump (orginal)

Postby BigBill » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:57 pm

outdoors4evr wrote:
BigBill wrote:Plus my neighbor said it couldn’t be done,

Now THIS is better motivation! :{_}: Get out the stick welder, :coffee: and later the :beer:


My Hobart 200 amp/100% duty cycle gas engine stick welder is ready thanks to connectikit our member here.
Hearing just that fired me up. I purchased most of the hydraulics. I have the two front arms fabrication done. The two front uprites are done with the subframe that attaches both uprites side to side. I need to post pics here I did but there gone. I had all my ih equipment running then the prostate cancer hit me but I’m ready to hit the think tank again for the rear subframe. Nothing seems hard to do. Power steering, fel, backhoe, each will have a seperate pump and oil tank. The tractor power will get the backhoe to where I need it. After seeing what damage I can do with acub cadet front bucket a small bucket on the 154 will be perfect.

Don’t ever say I can’t do anything. :{_}: I just replaced my 4”/4.5”/5”/6”/7”/9” hand grinders with metabo brand.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.


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