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New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:52 pm

Hey everyone,

I recently acquired a 71? Lo-boy 154 in trade. It's in pretty rough shape, but after a good bit of tinkering I finally got it to run decent. Had a stuck valve, old fuel, gummed up carb and nasty plugs.

I have to fix the horrible wiring mess, and will eventually have to address a leaking rear main seal.

It has a Woods mower deck with it, missing the mounting arms and the PTO is shot (missing clutch packs).

All that said it's a decent little project I'm looking forward to messing around with! I'll get some pictures in a few days or so whenever I get it cleaned up a little bit.

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby Eugene » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:50 pm

Welcome.
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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby Duner » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:25 am

Welcome, here is discussion about converting to Electric PTO if you clutch is shot shot.
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=92418&p=796061&hilit=Toro#p796061

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:44 am

Duner wrote:Welcome, here is discussion about converting to Electric PTO if you clutch is shot shot.
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=92418&p=796061&hilit=Toro#p796061


You know, we were already thinking about doing something like that, but that post gives me a couple better ideas. We were talking about just replacing the whole shaft and using the PTO clutch on the back to drive the mower, but this makes me think about putting it where the original clutch was.....

Thanks for the idea!

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:09 am

On another note, can the ring gear be installed on the 154 flywheel or does the whole thing have to be swapped out for a 184 flywheel if I decided to use a starter instead of the starter/generator?

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:32 pm

chillman88 wrote:On another note, can the ring gear be installed on the 154 flywheel or does the whole thing have to be swapped out for a 184 flywheel if I decided to use a starter instead of the starter/generator?

Yes, search for the topic and you should find the posts. Some minor changes to the frame to accomodate the starter is needed. 12v starter is too large, you'll need to use a 6v starter to fit in the space.

EDIT: Here's one post that I kept for reference. Click on the picture for a larger view.
starter post.jpg

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:50 am

staninlowerAL wrote:
chillman88 wrote:On another note, can the ring gear be installed on the 154 flywheel or does the whole thing have to be swapped out for a 184 flywheel if I decided to use a starter instead of the starter/generator?

Yes, search for the topic and you should find the posts. Some minor changes to the frame to accomodate the starter is needed. 12v starter is too large, you'll need to use a 6v starter to fit in the space.

EDIT: Here's one post that I kept for reference. Click on the picture for a larger view. starter post.jpg



Perfect thank you! I'm probably just going to leave it for right now if the generator works (currently no charge wire on the regulator). But there is a possibility of having to replace the rear main seal and if I have to pull the flywheel anyway to do that I'll probably put a ring gear on while I'm there.

No clue what it has for oil in it. I'm planning on dumping some 15w-40 in there (because that's what I have on hand) with a bottle of Rislone to clean up the years of crap in the crankcase.

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:10 pm

Well I can't figure out how to attach the pictures. Keeps saying file size too large??

Greased everything I could, found out where the sloppy steering is, need a couple rod ends and there's a bunch of play in the steering arm mounted behind the axle pivot. Gearbox seems good.

Anyone know what threads are in the front axle for the grease fittings at the spindles? One is missing and it's larger than the 1/4-28 I have but much smaller than the 1/8-27NPT fittings.

Ran a charge wire from the regulator to the ammeter, doesn't seem to be charging. Starter works fine though, should I assume the regulator is bad?

Started running like crap, but I think the battery was almost dead so it's sitting on trickle charge for a while.

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby Eugene » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:52 pm

chillman88 wrote:Anyone know what threads are in the front axle for the grease fittings at the spindles? One is missing and it's larger than the 1/4-28 I have but much smaller than the 1/8-27NPT fittings.
They do make 3/16" threaded grease zerks.

Grease zerk kits, numerous sizes and shapes. Great to have on the shelf.
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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:15 pm

Thanks Eugene! I have a kit but it only has the sizes I listened, hence my confusion. But.... 3/16 is smaller than 1/4, unless you meant 5/16. Regardless, I was unaware there were other sizes and it gives me something to look into!

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:56 pm

The parts catalog says it is a 3/16 drive type fitting. Last time I needed a drive fitting, the nearest NAPA had a small bag of them on a peg.

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:49 pm

Jim Becker wrote:The parts catalog says it is a 3/16 drive type fitting. Last time I needed a drive fitting, the nearest NAPA had a small bag of them on a peg.


I had to look that up. Drive type fittings that don't thread in, that's new to me! Thank you, that little tidbit would have been a headache for me!

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby Eugene » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:25 pm

They also make thread forming grease zerks.
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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby SONNY » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:24 am

You have to re-size your pix. to 640 x 480 and they will post. I resize all of mine in paint--takes a min. or two to do then they go right in.----just another step you gotta go thru.

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Re: New guy with new to me 154

Postby chillman88 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:36 am

SONNY wrote:You have to re-size your pix. to 640 x 480 and they will post. I resize all of mine in paint--takes a min. or two to do then they go right in.----just another step you gotta go thru.


Thanks, I tried that but it didn't work. I'll give it another shot, might have just been acting fussy.

Eugene wrote:They also make thread forming grease zerks.


Yeah those are the ones that come with tie rod ends for cars, the ones I can never get to thread in straight no matter how hard I try....


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