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Broken Spring! Need help please

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Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby justice0840 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:02 pm

I bought a 79 loboy last year and I am not a mechanic at all. I removed my snow plow blade today and when I moved my tractor a spring was laying , broken, on the concrete. It is about 2 inches long and painted red. I have attached a picture. If anyone can help identify where this goes it would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:55 pm

Looks somewhat like the spring on the governor linkage. Might be a little too long but check the top rear of the governor housing to see if yours is missing. Also look for a belt tension idler on the mower that is missing a spring.
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:35 pm

Bend is the wrong way for governor, I am thinking of the springs that go on the clutch, antirattle spring? approximately where was it laying, under which part of the tractor. Thinking it over, does the numbered LOBOY use the same brake and clutch pedal return spring as a standard cub, that is what it looks like.

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edit, was mixing LOBOY and Cadet when thinking of antirattle spring. :oops:
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:47 pm

I was thinking pedal spring, too, but the spring and the hook parts are both too short. And it is too long for the governor spring.
I can't think of any other spring... :?
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Bob McCarty » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:57 pm

It may have been that one of the pedal springs broke, and this was the closest replacement the PO could find.

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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:01 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:It may have been that one of the pedal springs broke, and this was the closest replacement the PO could find.

Bob

You may be right, Bob. Being so short, I can't imagine how anyone got it hooked, though...I have said some really nasty things about my tractors trying to get new ones on!!! :oops:
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:15 am

It's a brake pedal spring. They are a booger to get on. Needle Nosed vice grips worked the best for me.
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:31 am

Possibly, but it is quite a bit shorter. Maybe there was another section on the floor?

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Hey, look under the platform and see if you are missing one!
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:12 pm

Hey guys, he has a 184. I'm seeing a lot of Farmall suggestions here.

I haven't checked the parts catalog, but suspect it is an original spring from somewhere on the clutch or brakes.

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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Ooooooo....good point! And since I know absolutely nothing about those, I will leave this to more knowledgeable folks!! :lol:
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby tmays » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:27 am

Press the clutch and brake pedals to find out if it's one of those. I think it's clutch spring. Just had this happen on my 154. Don't know if it's the same on a 184
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:28 am

Aren't the governor and pedal springs the same for either one though?
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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:11 am

Brake return springs for a numbered series look identical to the picture you posted.
http://hamiltonbobs.com/cart/image/cach ... 00x500.jpg

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Re: Broken Spring! Need help please

Postby justice0840 » Thu May 07, 2015 3:53 am

Thanks for all the help! It is the clutch return spring and it is all fixed!! Sorry I was so slow to respond! You guys are all great!!


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