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New 154 owner

Postby Salty » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:04 pm

Hi all, just bought a 154 and not quite sure what I've gotten myself into. Looks like this is the place for help!

Still familiarizing myself with the machine, but so far I know I have a throttle issue and various parts and pieces it came with that I'm not sure where they go - or how important they may be. Lots of forum mining ahead, glad to see there's plenty of enthusiasts out there.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:06 pm

Salty, Welcome to the Forum. In the tool bar above, under "PDF Manuals", you'll find a section for the numbered LoBoys. Let us know if we can be of any help.

Bob
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Re: New 154 owner

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:48 am

Welcome to the site!
What are the symptoms of the "throttle issue"???
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Re: New 154 owner

Postby tyrtrax » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:44 am

Welcome aboard :D and congrats on the new machine! Any pics to share with us?

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:05 pm

Rocky Mt Cubfest coming up in your area in about two weeks, great opportunity to learn about Cubs, contact Bob McCarty.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:42 pm

Salty, I live half way between Berthoud and Longmont. The Rocky Mtn. Cubfest is Sept 11-12. Call me at 303-330-3692 for details. I'll be at the Yesteryear Farm Show south of Longmont this Fri-Sun (which you may want to attend).

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Salty » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:45 pm

Hey thanks all, and local people even, nice!

Bob, I will call you tomorrow, thanks for the info! We actually just moved from Longmont, and that's where I found the 154 as well. Maybe you saw it on Main st. I probably paid too much, but it's in pretty good shape and fit our needs at the new place exactly - nice sized belly mower, snow plow, and 3 pt./PTO. If I had the time and patience I might've got a better deal, but I must say I really like this little tractor and I think it'll serve us well given some TLC.

The throttle issue: First off, there is no governor spring between the speed change lever and the rockshaft (thanks for the manuals btw, completely lost without them). So all it'll do is idle right now, but with the engine off I can't turn the rockshaft at all by hand - does that mean anything? There are a bunch of scratches in there that look like maybe the spring kept popping off.

Second, the throttle lever is bolted to the right side just behind the the hydraulics control. The lever looks just like the one on Hamilton Bobs, but it will only pull up/back, it binds up when you try to push it down/forward. Not sure if this is a placement issue with the cable or just how it works without the governor spring attached. Might just take some fiddling.

I'm finding various other issues that I think are fairly straightforward and/or have found answers here already, will just take some time and $$$, but I hope to put 'er to work soon.

Picture is a bit dark, but here she is:

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Thanks again!

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:55 am

Salty wrote:The throttle issue: First off, there is no governor spring between the speed change lever and the rockshaft (thanks for the manuals btw, completely lost without them). So all it'll do is idle right now, but with the engine off I can't turn the rockshaft at all by hand - does that mean anything? There are a bunch of scratches in there that look like maybe the spring kept popping off.

FYI, The governor spring (not shown in the picture) part #7, is a bit hard to see has a different part # than a regular FCUB so be aware of that. Also the lever #11 must piviot freely on the shaft #12 coming out of the governor. Lube it with a spray penetrant like PB BLASTER, KROIL, etc and let it soak for a while and see if it will move any at all, VERY GENTLY because the lever is easily broken. Tapping with a small hammer or wrench might help, just don't get too agressive and be patient. Sometimes it takes several applications and DAYS to get it to move. The picture is from the FCUB parts manual but it works the same way.
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EDITED TO CORRECT GOVERNOR SPRING ID
Last edited by staninlowerAL on Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Eugene » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:52 am

Remove the throttle cable from the governor. Probably need to loosen the starter/generator belt and let to S/G flop to the outside to access the throttle cable. Try to operate the throttle lever - checking to see if it's binding.

Follow up with multiple liberal applications of solvent as Stan described. Just went through Stan's procedure. Took several days before the governor was completely free.
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Re: New 154 owner

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:15 pm

Note the edit to correct the governor spring ID. Sorry for the mis-information.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Salty » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:13 pm

Great, thank you Stan and Eugene. This one has had some restoration done, and the powder coat is a bit thick in places, I think this may be part of the problem as well. The lever definitely does not swing freely, it's very stiff but moves with a bit of effort. Will see if penetrating oil does the trick.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Mortgaged » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:42 am

That looks like a really nice tractor that someone put a lot of time into but just didn't finish up on the minor details? Stick with it and you'll have a great tractor with just a little bit of work. With the help available on this site, I think you'll be able to get this stuff taken care of quickly.

Let us know how it works out and if you run into any other issues.

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Re: New 154 owner

Postby Salty » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:16 am

It is shiny on the outside, and the engine starts and runs well. So far I've found it's mostly solid with just some missing pieces and a few adjustments. Might have a PTO clutch problem, will start a new thread for that one.


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