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185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:36 pm

welp I have most of the repairs done on the 185.
did a test run clearing snow the McGee front mount blower did an awesome job [even got rid of the high spots LOL].

the next major issue is the Distributer.
I think the advance unit for the timing is stuck.[been a wile sense I messed with points and condenser's]

It's firing too early wen starting and have to jump start it to get enough power to roll it over.
after it's warmed up the motor runs great and has plenty of power

so the plan is to set the timing
at TDC and pull the distributer,
take in to the heated shop and have a look at it.
the tractor sat 3 years unused.

any other info or ideas will be greatly appreciated

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby twotone » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:44 pm

My 154 I had would barely turn over and sometimes wouldn't. It had a new, charged battery. Tried a friends starter /generator and spun like crazy. I'm not familiar with 185's,so If you have a S/G,or just a starter, might be something to check.
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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:48 pm

Before you pull the distributor, with a timing light, check the ignition timing at low idle and at fast idle. You may only need a minor adjustment at the distributor.

If the advance is stuck or sticking, place the distributor upright in a clamp/vise. Under the rotor is a felt. Put several drops of oil on the felt. Wait a few minutes, then holding the drive gear see if you can move the rotor end a bit. The advance at the distributor is only about a 7 degree so don't get carried away.

Move the battery ground cable from the sheet metal to the transmission. This will improve the s/g's cranking ability.
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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:05 am

update;
the advance was stuck and the timing was set at the wrong mark.
So a little Pb blaster was applied to the felt under the rotor[using a oil can not spray]and was able to work it loose with my fingers.
did not have to pull the distributer.
The timing was way advanced [set to the wrong mark]so it was backed off 7-10 degrees.
it starts good now.
also upgraded the ground cable with a 1/0 out of the treasure pile.it was grounded to the trans but it was a #4 or smaller

thank you for the info.
I am sure that there will be other ''gremlins'' that will show up [still working them out]

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby mastercraft » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:29 am

Mike H wrote:welp I have most of the repairs done on the 185.
did a test run clearing snow the McGee front mount blower did an awesome job [even got rid of the high spots LOL].

the next major issue is the Distributer.
I think the advance unit for the timing is stuck.[been a wile sense I messed with points and condenser's]

It's firing too early wen starting and have to jump start it to get enough power to roll it over.
after it's warmed up the motor runs great and has plenty of power

so the plan is to set the timing
at TDC and pull the distributer,
take in to the heated shop and have a look at it.
the tractor sat 3 years unused.

any other info or ideas will be greatly appreciated

Mike H
do you have any pics of your 185 with the blower mounted on it?? I'd like to see it.....got a mckee snolander 320 myself for my 184....currently in the process of painring it all up and installing it........I 'd like to see a pic of the rear specifically where the pto is driving the rear driveshaft that mounts under the tractor..........mine has 3 point and I'd like to keep it on but I don't see how I can as the drawbar for the mower appears it'll interfere with the mounting.

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:48 pm

the draw bar for the sheives has to come off and all the mower parts except the rock shaft and ends
I will work on pictures this weekend.

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:58 pm

as for the distributer
its working free but not returning to the TDC for starting
the question is;
are there two springs to pull the weights back to the center shaft?
I do have a Cd for maintenance but no Cd player[it came with the tractor]

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby mastercraft » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:16 pm

Mike H wrote:the draw bar for the sheives has to come off and all the mower parts except the rock shaft and ends
I will work on pictures this weekend.

Mike H

yeah I remember when my dad had one of these it came off.....however his 185 did not have 3 point........my 184 does and I'd like to retain the use of it......I think i'VE SEEN SOME who have the use of 3 point with their mckee but not sure how they did it.........I may just power the blower anyway with a horizontal shaft briggs mounted on the front of the blower....my Dad did that to his many years ago

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:36 pm

pictures not co operating

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:11 pm

Mike H wrote:as for the distributer its working free but not returning to the TDC for starting
the question is; are there two springs to pull the weights back to the center shaft?
2 springs. Did you try my earlier suggestion on lubricating the mechanical advance?
I do have a Cd for maintenance but no Cd player[it came with the tractor].
Computers usually have a CD player.

There is a plug on the side of the distributor for greasing the distributor shaft.
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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:20 pm

yes I lubed the felt pad inside the shaft,it seems loose but it does not return to the start location
and I can hear the weights tap in both directions.

chromebooks don't have a cd player

and the other computer is DOA

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby Mike H » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:32 pm

also I do not feel any resistance wile advancing the rotor or returning it[it just sits there]

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Re: 185 is working fine for snow

Postby mastercraft » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:07 pm

Mike H wrote:pictures not co operating

Mike H
bummer.....sure would like to see another mckee owners lo boy in action........anyway, I had a few of the front bars backwards and I removed the draw bar today and turns out it doesn't affect the 3 point....there was just a plate bolted to it that is fine without it attached to the draw bar.....3 point still works fine!!1 and I bolted up the driveshaft under the tractor and put the belts and pulley on and presto!!! we have a working mckee snolander 320!!!!!!!


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