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184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:05 am

Well the 184 did great blowing snow with the mckee 320 in 30+ inches this past weekend until my selector valve jammed (the one that switches between front hydraulics and 3 point) So I smacked it and it tore the o-ring.......is there a how to rebuild on this? but more so I need the o-ring rebuild kit? I read somewhere they are flat/square? the two ind ones if I remove the c - clips I can tap the selector out enough either way to get them, but thay are just regular o-rings and one was tore.......is this all the -rings it has? I would assume there are more further down and these end ones are the seals? I need to get this back up and running so I need to know where to purchase a rebuild kit?

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:19 am

Here's a link to Messick's. You'll need to click on hydraulics and then selector valve. It'll give you an exploded view and the parts list shows the sizes of the three o rings. It should be straight forward to rebuild.
http://www.messicks.com/cas/61659

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Edit: (10-14) and (10-14 [1]) ---not sure which you need. With the o ring sizes you should be able to get them at an auto parts store, tractor supply, or hydraulic repair shop.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:40 am

My parts book shows a total of 5 O-rings. 2 O-rings on the valve and 3 O-rings on the pipe fittings.

The 2 O-rings for the valve are 9/16 x 3/4 x 3/32.

The 3 O-rings for the pipe fittings are listed as 3/8 OD tube.

Might try your local tractor dealership(s). The local New Holland dealership has a large cabinet with different O-rings. They had in stock an unusual (tiny) O-ring for a Kohler Command carburetor.

Take a sample of needed O-rings with you as you shop around.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:04 am

Eugene wrote:My parts book shows a total of 5 O-rings. 2 O-rings on the valve and 3 O-rings on the pipe fittings.

The 2 O-rings for the valve are 9/16 x 3/4 x 3/32.

The 3 O-rings for the pipe fittings are listed as 3/8 OD tube.

Might try your local tractor dealership(s). The local New Holland dealership has a large cabinet with different O-rings. They had in stock an unusual (tiny) O-ring for a Kohler Command carburetor.

Take a sample of needed O-rings with you as you shop around.
thanks, 5 min after I made the post I had pulled up the diagram on messicks and they had the size, then I went to my o-ring kit from napa and it had the 2 that I needed.........it's now fixed or at least we'll find out tonight when it goes back on.............it'll need to be filled with hydraulic fluid......so next question, my service manual only states the fill plug/level plug in the center at the back and the drain plug underneath the tractor, however on the side directly perpendicular to the drain plug below is another box type plug, I assume this is the level plug that is to be removed when filling to get to the appropriate level?

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:15 am

mastercraft wrote:So next question, my service manual only states the fill plug/level plug in the center at the back.
Just use the fill plug/level plug on the back of the differential case.

If you didn't drain the transmission/differential you may only need a quart or so of hydraulic fluid to top off the system.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:43 pm

Eugene wrote:
mastercraft wrote:So next question, my service manual only states the fill plug/level plug in the center at the back.
Just use the fill plug/level plug on the back of the differential case.

If you didn't drain the transmission/differential you may only need a quart or so of hydraulic fluid to top off the system.
how many qts of hydraulic fluid is it suppose to hold? Also, I've read about this extra level fill plug in other places on the net, people have said to use the rear one at the center for fill and the loer plug on the left side of the diff pulled for level purposes, and that's what I think I did in the past when I changed the fluid. If I filled it up to the level on the back it'd take a lot more I'm sure as it is way down from there.

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:08 pm

The Operator's Manual for the 184 is located in the "PDF Manuals" link above. Lots of good information there.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:17 pm

154's Operator's Manual. Transmission. Keep the lubricant up to level plug (19) on the rear of the transmission case. (19) is the fill plug/level plug.

154's Operator's Manual. 7 quarts for tractor with hydraulic system. 7 2/3 quart for tractor with hydraulic system and creeper.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:19 pm

Don McCombs wrote:The Operator's Manual for the 184 is located in the "PDF Manuals" link above. Lots of good information there.

I would if I could, for some reason file format won't work on my computer which Is why I'm asking "how much fluid does it take?"

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:21 pm

Eugene wrote:154's Operator's Manual. Transmission. Keep the lubricant up to level plug (19) on the rear of the transmission case. (19) is the fill plug/level plug.

154's Operator's Manual. 7 quarts for tractor with hydraulic system. 7 2/3 quart for tractor with hydraulic system and creeper.
I have a creeper........so what is the level plug down below for I have removed before and filled to that level?

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:22 pm

Try Rudi's Manuals, top of page, Numbered Cubs.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:07 pm

doesn't mention anything in that manual about that plug, guess I can remove the plug and add 7 qts after draining it completely 1st of course and see which hole it comes out......got a neighbor who needs his driveway blowed out tonight, been stuck there three days so gotta have this back up and running tonight so I can hang my plow on the back of the three point as he lives on the side of a hill and I'll be blowing down hill = easy....getting back up?? hope I can do it..lol

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:56 pm

The information I provided in an earlier post on this topic is contained in Rudi's Manuals, Numbered Low boys, 184: pages 36, 51 and 56.
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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby mastercraft » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:19 pm

Eugene wrote:The information I provided in an earlier post on this topic is contained in Rudi's Manuals, Numbered Low boys, 184: pages 36, 51 and 56.

read page 56 closer and you'll understand my confusion............it states remove filler plug and level plug = infers 2 separate even though my service manual lists plug 19 as filler/level plug

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Re: 184 SELECTOR VALVE rebuild needed asap

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:44 pm

Yes, it does infer two separate plugs. There is only one plug.

Plugs should be singular, probably a proof reading error.
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