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Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:44 pm

Anyone have any information on the LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number? I have not been able to locate the NUMBER SERIES information in QUICK LINKS above, probably because it's listed differently that the way it was. I only remember information about 154 so that might not even help. I did find one source that listed the 184 starter as "not available" and instead listed the same starter/gen as the 154 and 185 as a replacement part. Also got this from another source: "According to IH book, starter is 1107327. IH part number?" Thanks, Stan

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:18 pm

From the CNH online parts catalog...

http://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-se ... 3502537-32
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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:43 pm

Those same part numbers show up for the late standard Cubs. Even if discontinued from CaseIH one shouldn't be hard to find.

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:55 pm

Jim Becker wrote:Those same part numbers show up for the late standard Cubs. Even if discontinued from CaseIH one shouldn't be hard to find.
Thanks Don and Jim. I see it now in TC37F, Rev 6, 8-79 GROUP 8 Page 11 that the earlier PN 1107327 (fits SN 224401-321481 and LoBoy above 18701) is superseded by PN 1109352, for all above SN 224401. I should be able to get the Delco Remy info from my 76 FCub (if the data plate is still there). When I tried to follow the link for details on the CIH website it said that it was superceded and no details available. I couldn't determine what the 131174C91 number is unless it is a new CIH PN for the starter assembly. I checked Messick's for info and they don't list a starter for a 184 except a kit to install a starter/gen like the 154 and 185 which I guess could be made to work. Just not what I want. Stan

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:22 pm

"Nother" question, looking up CUB SN, the last one 1979 shown in this data base is SN 253685. The Parts List referenced above lists parts for SN above 321482 so what gives? I tried to enter that SN in the table to determine the year and it would not accept the info. I'm confused. :help: :lost: (But then that's not too difficult to do.)
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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:26 pm

That is one of the several places where the Parts Catalog lists an effective serial number for some engine related part that should say ENGINE number.

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:34 pm

OK Jim, thanks for clearing that up for me. So the starter on my '76 with ENG SN 31489? should get me what I need even if it falls within the earlier range of PN 1107327 for ENG SN 224401-321481. I think I've got it now.

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:20 pm

Regardless the part number changes, I imagine any 12-volt Cub starter is close enough. I haven't swapped any around myself to know what you might run into. You could run into something like a relocated cable lug interfering with the 184 frame.

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:20 am

Yeah, I've run into things like that before. That's why I want to physically try it with what I have before I sink $$$ into it. The more information, the better. Thanks for your help. I'm continually amazed at your depth of knowledge of these tractors. On another subject related to this is the flywheel for all the C60 engines appear to be the same, just some had ring gear and some did not. Again I plan to make the physical application just to be sure. Thanks. Stan

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:32 am

staninlowerAL wrote:. . . On another subject related to this is the flywheel for all the C60 engines appear to be the same, just some had ring gear and some did not. . . .

Don't know. I don't have much first hand experience with the numbered Lo-Boys. The parts catalog makes them look much different and they have different parts numbers.

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:57 am

Why can't the starter be rebuilt?
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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:35 pm

outdoors4evr wrote:Why can't the starter be rebuilt?
I don't have a 184 starter, that's why I'm looking for alternatives and what will fit/work at a reasonable cost. Thanks. Stan

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Cubfriend » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:51 am

I beleive some of the C-60 power units used a different design flywheel. If I remember correctly the flywheel for a power unit can have a recessed clutch assembly. The flywheel is dished to surround the clutch. ...Frank
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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:35 am

Don McCombs wrote:From the CNH online parts catalog...
http://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-se ... 3502537-32

Thanks Don. I found the CIH part number for the 184 LoBoy complete assembly: 1109352 which as Jim said, shows up for all above ESN 321482 and replaces CIH part number 1107327 for all FCub above ESN 224401-321481 and LoBoy above ESN 18701. Maybe this will be useful for someone else in the future. Stan

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Re: Cub LoBoy 184 starter Delco Remy part number

Postby Eugene » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Been following this topic with interest. Stan, when you get the project finished, photos, comments, and parts numbers please.
I have an excuse. CRS.


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