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installing a creeper gear

Postby 64/67lo-boy » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:47 pm

Had this on the bench for a few years now just getting around to installing it. I had a question on a part that holds the gear to the input shaft. as you can see the old roll pin is a little deformed. I ordered a new one plus a spare. But was wondering how tuff these pins are and do they break often?
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby 64/67lo-boy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:34 pm

Today I recieved a few parts for the creeper. I had to get the knob that threads onto the creeper actuator rod and the mating gasket that goes between the trans and creeper. Had to make some alighment dowel pins out of 7/16 by 7/8 grade eight bolts that were missing. probubly still in the trany the creeper came from. Still waiting on the roll pin that holds the gear on to the input shaft. I need to clean off the paint on the front of the trans and drill a hole in the side of the creeper body and tap for a plug. That will be at the fill level so i wont be guessing.started to rain so i had to quit for the day.
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:44 am

From the looks of that roll pin, it didn't have much more life left in it. Good thing you are replacing it.
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby 64/67lo-boy » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:56 pm

Todays update. Had a set back with the two bottom bolts that go threw the creeper housing and into the trans housing. they were both stripped out. No problem just install some heilicoils and back in business.
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I looked in the parts manual and it shows a spacer that goes inbetween the clutch break bracket and the creeper. does any one know what the thickness is? I will have to make one, it looks like it could be 3/16 or 1/4 inch. Definately need it to make contact with the break buttons.
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby Eugene » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:08 pm

64/67lo-boy wrote:I looked in the parts manual and it shows a spacer that goes inbetween the clutch break bracket and the creeper. does any one know what the thickness is? I will have to make one, it looks like it could be 3/16 or 1/4 inch. Definately need it to make contact with the break buttons.
I'm thinking about 1/8th inch thick, might be even thinner. Didn't measure it when I was working on my 154 with creeper.

The exact thickness may not be critical because there is a linkage adjustment.

I would try a dry, loose assembly to estimate/measure the needed the thickness.

HamiltonBobs probably has one.
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby BigBill » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:26 pm

On my number “3” int154 I purchased with the creeper and snowplow I plowed snow using the creeper it takes a lot of the load off the drivetrain in low/low. I noticed the clutch was slipping plowing in high range. But in low/low it had no slippage. I purchased a new clutch, flywheel, throwout brg assembly and drive shaft from hamiltonbobscubs. Upon disassembly it had two broken springs on the pressure plate. Only one of the three springs was compressing the clutch disc. That’s really amaising since I plowed snow all winter and dirt in the spring. I figured I’d get the max I could before replacing the clutch. Don’t let these estate tractors fool us they work too. It’s just that they were abused more.
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Re: installing a creeper gear

Postby 64/67lo-boy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:45 pm

Yep mine had a broken spring in the presaure plate also, Plus the clutch disc was wore out. came out in three pieces. glad to here it will do the job. Sure is surpriseing how much a little part will take. That roll pin transfers all that torque and power to the trans.
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