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Why do they do that?

Postby john2189 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:25 pm

I bought three new spindles for my Honda hrc7013 walk behind mower before the mowing season started. Since they had grease fittings,I greased them when installed. Sharpened blades the other day and the middle one that drives them was very loose. I bought another spindle, that way I could put new bearings in and have a spare, took the bad one apart, it was full of grease, but it had sealed bearings. No way for the grease could get to the bearings. So I took the new one apart and removed the inside seals. Now I need to do the remaining two spindles.
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby Gary Dotson » Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:43 am

I don’t know why they do that but it may be the fact that the typical home owner doesn’t own a grease gun and wouldn’t know how to use it, if he did. Sealed bearings may survive a little longer, under those conditions. Don’t know why they would waste a zero fitting, though.

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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby john2189 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:11 am

I guess it makes you feel like you are doing something good, but all you are doing is wasting your time and grease
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby SamsFarm » Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:30 am

john2189 wrote:I guess it makes you feel like you are doing something good, but all you are doing is wasting your time and grease



:lol:

I like tapered roller bearings on my mower spindles!
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby john2189 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:22 pm

SamsFarm wrote:
john2189 wrote:I guess it makes you feel like you are doing something good, but all you are doing is wasting your time and grease



:lol:

I like tapered roller bearings on my mower spindles!


Me too. That’s what the woods 59 has. Still tight as when I bought it in 2006. Who knows when it was bought new
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby SamsFarm » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:12 pm

john2189 wrote:Me too. That’s what the woods 59 has. Still tight as when I bought it in 2006. Who knows when it was bought new



When I was in the market for a 3 point finish mower, it was down to the Woods or LandPride.....

Good or bad, I bought a new Woods PRD7200 because it had the tapered roller bearings and supposedly the LandPride did not!

I have a 59 for a cub too, got it in a multi tractor and implempent buy...... Have not used it yet!
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby john2189 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:17 pm

Mount the 59 to the cub, you will like it :)
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby Eugene » Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:11 pm

No zerk in the spindle, greasable/unsealed bearing.

Sometimes is a manufacturing screw up. Manufacturing department orders parts. Purchasing department finds and orders the cheapest part that they think fits the manufacturing departments request.

Manufactured parts on hand, ordered parts for the project arrive. 15,000 units assembled and to be shipped by Friday. Not going to send the incorrect parts back and wait another month.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby SamsFarm » Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:21 pm

john2189 wrote:Mount the 59 to the cub, you will like it :)


Highly doubtful! I mow with a 45hp tractor that uses way less fuel than mowing with the Cub! :)
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Re: Why do they do that?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:48 pm

My personal opinion are it does two things. It keeps water out of the spindle if you wash it regularly, and if the seals give way it allows grease to get to the bearings. Also, some of those bearings are only seaoled on one side. I suspect the mower manufacturers orders the spindles from different companies and are never sure of the bearing arrangement, so they order grease fittings.
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