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Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby cowboy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:45 am

:D Well I have been a busy puppy for the last two and a half weeks. I went to the farm on 2/19/10 to get ready to have a new pole barn put up. That we have been wanting for the last three years. The first thing to do was get the farmall 130 out and push the snow off of our 1/4 mile of private road. So I could get the truck up to the trailer we stay in. Then I had to replace the blown hyd hose to the tilt cylinder on the dozer and get that going. And fire up the loader and push back all the snow banks and widen the road so they could get two semi's up there pulling 52' trailers.

The materials are supposed to be dropped off on the 24th and building starts on 26th and I still do not have a building permit :oops: The address we applied for sept 25th is not for our property so I cannot get a permit. Monday I head to the Soo. With my plot book and maps to get it straitened out. All worried that it was going to take a long time to get it corrected. It ended up being a simple mistake. Our address got mixed up with someone elses. A beautiful lady that works at the state equalization office printed me out the right address and I was off again. I should have ask her out for a date :{_}: Now back to town to start the building permit. I get the paperwork and stop at the county road commission and ask them to plow and sand the seasonal road to my gate. So the semi's won't get stuck or slide off the slippery road to my place.

Tuesday the county plows and sands the road all the way to my trailer :||): Gotta love being Up north :{_}: :{_}: After filling out the building permit. Carefully measuring off the property lines to where the building is going to go up and taking pictures. I take the paper work back into town to have it looked over and get started. Oops the township hall does not open until noon. Back to the farm. I still have to put sand on the last 400' of road and build a ramp into the building area to get the trucks in. I go back to town and turn the paper work in. The guy that has to sign off on the first part does not come in until about 2pm. So back to the farm and fire up the loader and dump truck. Fuel filters are plugged up and maybe water in the tank from it sitting out side for the last three years. I call at 2:15 and the paper work is ok'ed and signed. I go pick it up. Now it needs to go to the Soo for the building inspector to ok and sign. But I need to call and make a appointment as he is really busy and is in the field alot. He is not in right now so I stop at napa to get new filters for the loader. :evil: They do not have them in stock but can have them in the morning for me. I am able to get the loader running long enough to get three truck loads of gravel. Before the filters totaly plug up and it shuts off for good. I could have used more gravel but I got enough to make do. It was well after dark before I got done spreading it out.

Wednesday the the first truck shows up at 7:30 am. Gets up the road and to the building site without a problem. The second truck show up 15 minutes after the first one leaves. I have to wait until noon for the last one to show up. So I called the building inspector and was told I could meet him Thursday morning at 8:00 am in his office in the Soo. I get the last truck unloaded. put a propane heater under the tank of the loader to melt any water in the tank. Then go to town to get my filters. And a pump to pump out the tank with a sock duck taped to the end of the hose to catch some of the crud. It was full with 38 gallons of diesel. I pumped all I could get out into a 55 gal drum. Then I cracked the drain plug on the bottom of the tank. I got maybe a 1/4 cup of water out of it. But there was still 12 gallons of diesel in the tank and I took a diesel bath getting it out. Filling three five gallon buckets.

Thursday I go to the Soo to meet the building inspector. He said it looked good but did not give me a permit. And the builders are showing up tomorrow. Said I didn't need it as it is primarily for farm equipment and personal logging equ. If I was going to do logging for hire I would need a permit. I also had to stop at TSC. For a new sweat shirt and jacket as my old ones were soaked in diesel fuel.

Three truck loads of materials. Doesn't look like a whole lot for a 40'x80' building with 14' foot sidewalls 14' wide x 12' hight roll up door and 18' wide 14' high sliding door.

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Friday morning it was cold snowing with a hard wind. And was supposed to be snowing harder to the south. The builders are supposed to be here at noon. I used the farmall 130 to plow two miles from the building site to the main road. I had not heard from them by 3:00pm and figured the weather kept them home. 5:00 pm he called and said he was on my road. I met him at the gate and told him to keep his speed up as it was slippery at the top on the hill. He didn't listen and got stuck before the top of the hill. He unloaded his Bobcat and tried to push the truck and trailer up the hill but that did not work either even when I used the tractor to help pull. So I fired up the dozer and pulled him up with no problem.

I showed him the site and he squared up the building and marked his holes. Put the auger on the bobcat and tried to drill the first hole. It wasn't working. The frost was deep and the ground was hard pan with cobbles in it. And the auger would not cut it. He called it a day and went got rooms in the Soo. He came back saturday with a electric jack hammer. He worked all day and only got four and a half hole in. We were afraid he was going to pack up and go home. I went to town and bought a frost burner and put it on a 20lb propane tank to help melt the frost. That helped and he started a fire in every hole. But it still took two more days to get all the holes in. By Monday he had enough holes in to start the 80 foot long south wall.

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The reason we started so early was that we got a 10% discount on the price if we ordered by Jan 31. Which we did. He then said it would be up in 30 days. I ask if he was sure he could build it in the UP in the winter. And he repeated that it would be up in 30 days. I said the pad was not level and was out 2.5 feet front to back and I could not level it until the frost was out of the ground. As my dozer could not cut through the frost to get it level. And he said it was not a problem.

Monday evening he had enough in to do the north wall and start putting up trusses

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Tuesday he had all the trusses up. And only had to drill two more holes for the front wall.

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Friday at 4:00 pm he was done and out of there. As you can see its kinda up in the air and needs a whole lot of fill around it :D

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Dad and my Uncle Dennis came up to see it friday nite. Dad followed me all day saturday. As I used the old W-14 articulated wheel loader. To load the old 1976 GMC 9500 dump truck with a supercharged Detroit Diesel 6-71 in it. I hauled 31 heavy loads of gravel to the building. Through the woods from a gravel bank I found after new years. My friend Scott was cutting trees off of the pit I was digging sand out of before I would get to them and fall on the loader and me. He said he could hear the truck screaming from over four miles away and over a hill as hauled the gravel out of the woods.

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My dirt working crew gathered around the barn.

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Still needs a lot more gravel inside and out but it will work for now!

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Finally the toys are inside!!!!

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I got home monday evening just before dark. I through Dancer a bale of hay. And took my first shower in over two weeks. And it felt good :{_}: :{_}: Washin' up from a pan of hot water on a stove is just not the same :D I am beat I sleap most of the day yesterday. And am still tired today. I have been up at daylight putting heaters under the equ before breakfast and not stopping until after dark. But its great to have the building up :{_}: :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Ken (48 Cub) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:16 am

SWEET! :)
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby cowboy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:36 am

Thanks Ken

Hopefully I can have a smaller one put up here next year for the cub's to stay in :{_}:

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby grumpy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:38 am

Wow..I could spend a whole summer getting that done.!! Lookin GOOD. Grump
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Rudi » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:11 pm

Billy:

That is one nice pole barn. I enjoyed reading the story and the pics. I know you enjoyed the work.. I sure would have. I don't even want to think of what that cost :big say what: ... but I am glad you got all the equipment under cover now. Hopefully it will be secure as well. Very nice building. NIce job, now get some sleep and recover .. :D
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Rick Prentice » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:13 pm

Wow, Great job Billy. You guys aren't playing around :shock:

beautiful lady that works at the state equalization office printed me out the right address and I was off again. I should have ask her out for a date

And took my first shower in over two weeks

Good thing the lady didn't show up at your place and ask you for a date :D

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:16 pm

Billy, you made me tired just reading that. :D
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby cowboy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:38 pm

Thanks Grumpy :{_}:

Thats why we paid someone else to put it up.

Thanks Rudi

There is a lot more work to do. I want to put a vapor barrier in it and cover it with a foot of gravel. Put in a eve drain and finish the grade around it. It was $34,145 materials taxes and built. Or the price of a new pickup truck which is the way we looked at it.

Wow Rick you are right :!:

I did not think about that. But if I knew she was coming I would have took a bath in a snow bank :D

Thanks Don

I did not help much on the barn I had my own little project going on.

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby cowboy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:28 pm

So what was I doing while the barn was being built :?: You may ask :?:

Well I needed some gravel. When I made the 3/4 mile trail around the south 40. I saw some gravel clinging to the roots of some of the trees I was pushing over. I picked the closest spot that looked like it had a lot of gravel and that I could get to. Then I took the dozer and started clearing snow and brush off of it. Then I tried to push the trees over and off of it. Wow even the little trees were froze into the ground. And I could not push them over. I had to slowly chip the frost away from the trees to knock them down.

The start of my little gravel pit

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Blasting through the woods. In the old 1976 GMC 9500 dump truck with the supercharged Detroit Diesel 6-71 roaring away :{_}: My friend Scott said he could hear it from his house over four miles away :D

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The old 1981 Case articulated wheel loader after loading the truck

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How much gravel did I need for my little Project :?:

First loads of gravel on my 1/4 mile dirt driveway. Well I built my road of mud driveway in 2006. And it held up ok until last fall. With all the rain it turned back into mud. And I could barely get up it. So now was the time to stone it. I put 12 to 18 inches of gravel on the whole thing. Took me about four days to do. Having to get up in the morning tarp the dump truck and put a propane heater under it and then the loader. The dozer would start but sometimes I had to fire up the generator and hook up a battery charger to it to get it to crank fast enough to start up.

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It was in the low teens overnite and some days single digits. But was getting into the mid 30's by the end of the day. And you can see behind the dozer where it was turning to mud.

95% of the loads I backed down the hill. Near the end I was backing up almost a 1/4 mile from where I was able to turn around at. When I finally got to the point I could drive down I took the load down in 5th gear and was on the brakes all the way. (the truck has a 10 speed two range air shift road ranger trans in it) The second time I took it down in fourth and was still on the brakes. Finally it was ok in third. But not any faster than backing down but at this point I was really tired of backing up down the hill.

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Frost in the ground :?:

I thought snow on the ground was supposed to keep the frost out. Obviously not! Thats a 20oz pop bottle hung from the tree roots above the loader bucket. I had pushed the brush and snow off the top earlier in the day and thats how much frost was in the ground! No wonder my JD 450 would not push over any trees. Even after I undermined the frost I could not break it off with the loader. Once in a while when I got a lot opened up it would break off. But sometimes it was too heavy for the loader to lift and I had to go get the dozer and push it away.

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I took the pit down until I was on solid limestone. There is a big limestone quarry 1/2 to 3/4 mile away I was surprised I was able to get this deep.

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The little pit was bigger when I was done hauling for now. I do believe I got a little gravel moved in the week I was hauling.

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I also got three and a half dump truck loads of birch and hard maple fire wood out of there so far and there is more to haul out. My friend Scott came out on Saturday and cut 2 1/2 loads himself that day I hauled 31 loads of gravel to the barn. But I am done hauling until the frost comes out and dries up of freezes again.

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Bigdog » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:54 pm

That's a great looking barn and what a project! Cowboy - You are da man!!!!! :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Lurker Carl » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:56 pm

Nice! Y'all sure are getting a lot of work done up there. It helps to have the right equipment to git 'r done.

If your neighbor heard Jimmy screaming 4 miles away, I can't imaging how loud it is inside the cab. Those Detroit Diesels are real workhorses. Is your's the vee or inline 6?
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby bob in CT » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:27 pm

Wow,
Great job and thanks for sharing all the detail. I'm impressed. That was a lot to get accomplished in 2 weeks.
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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby Billy Fussell » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:50 pm

That is one good looking barn! And the pictures to boot. It don't get any better than that (for us). Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby 1541 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:55 pm

Great story and good looking barn Cowboy. That is a lot of work that went into. I am hoping to put up our new building later this spring early summer. I am still in the idea stage but your building is giving me lots of ideas now. I wouldn't complain a bit if you wanted to bring your toys down to play :D

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Re: Building a pole barn in Michigan's UP in winter

Postby VinceD » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:50 pm

Cowboy, that's a great story and a great looking pole barn. Enjoy it. :D :D
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