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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Urbish » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:18 am

KETCHAM wrote:I don't like the CCW law.....I carry if I chose to...and when I want to...I only carry if I feel I should...crooks don't have a CCW....why should I...???? Most of my stuff is not registered..some is....love my crossbow...that's a nasty weapon.....Ketcham


There are many who share your view and do the same. Keep in mind that if the day ever comes and you have to use your concealed weapon, even in self defense, the prosecuting attorney will probably stick it to you with multiple felony charges.

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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Eugene » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:54 am

skwimjim wrote:There are many who share your view and do the same. Keep in mind that if the day ever comes and you have to use your concealed weapon, even in self defense, the prosecuting attorney will probably stick it to you with multiple felony charges.
Most likely not true.

Most states have a Castle Doctrine Law and some have a Stand Your Ground Law. Missouri has both.
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby KETCHAM » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:08 pm

MOST GUN CHARGES I've SEEN GET DROPPED!!!! That's the problem....Not enforcing the laws that are there!!!!
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Urbish » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:12 pm

Eugene wrote:
skwimjim wrote:There are many who share your view and do the same. Keep in mind that if the day ever comes and you have to use your concealed weapon, even in self defense, the prosecuting attorney will probably stick it to you with multiple felony charges.
Most likely not true.

Most states have a Castle Doctrine Law and some have a Stand Your Ground Law. Missouri has both.


Castle doctrine prevents you from being charged with murder or assault in a self-defense case, but you can still be charged for illegally carrying a firearm. Regardless, if you are committing a crime while defending yourself, it muddies up the water.

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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Boss Hog » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:28 pm

skwimjim wrote:
Eugene wrote:
skwimjim wrote:There are many who share your view and do the same. Keep in mind that if the day ever comes and you have to use your concealed weapon, even in self defense, the prosecuting attorney will probably stick it to you with multiple felony charges.
Most likely not true.

Most states have a Castle Doctrine Law and some have a Stand Your Ground Law. Missouri has both.


Castle doctrine prevents you from being charged with murder or assault in a self-defense case, but you can still be charged for illegally carrying a firearm. Regardless, if you are committing a crime while defending yourself, it muddies up the water.

A lot depends on the state, Va, Tex and WVa you would most likely be ok, up north may be a bit more involved :D
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Jim Reid » Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:46 pm

Being the victim of a road rage incident because I was doing 45-50mph in a 55 zone the road was crooked and did not have any passing lanes the idiot behind me in his HUMMER thought I should drive faster or pull over and let him go after flashing his lights and blowing his horn we came to a stop sign where he pulled beside me and was telling me to get the hell off the road I slowly pulled my 9mm up and looked straight ahead that's the last I saw of him.

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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Eugene » Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:58 pm

Boss Hog wrote:A lot depends on the state, Va, Tex and WVa you would most likely be ok, up north may be a bit more involved :D
As I previously stated, Missouri is an open carry state with a few restrictions. Conceal and carry has less restrictions.

The Stand Your Ground provision in state law only requires to feel threatened.

If you can legally own a fire arm in Missouri, you have little chance of being charged with a felony defending yourself, or your property.

Depending on circumstance you could be charged with a felony. Example chasing the fleeing perpetrator down the street and shooting at him/her.

The original topic was conceal and carry and which type firearms.
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby ricky racer » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:47 pm

In the Chicago area, if you get caught with an unlicensed hand gun, it's a mandatory 5 years in Cook County Jail. The stiff gun laws are there to help make Chicago the beautiful crime free city it is today.

Myself I carry a folding knife, however my knife just happens to be a tool used almost daily. Liberals consider it a weapon but to an old country boy, it's a tool. I've carried a knife since I was a young man. In all of the decades I've carried a knife, I've never had to use it as a weapon but as I said I use it almost daily as a tool.
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Mike H » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:26 pm

Jim Reid wrote:Being the victim of a road rage incident because I was doing 45-50mph in a 55 zone the road was crooked and did not have any passing lanes the idiot behind me in his HUMMER thought I should drive faster or pull over and let him go after flashing his lights and blowing his horn we came to a stop sign where he pulled beside me and was telling me to get the hell off the road I slowly pulled my 9mm up and looked straight ahead that's the last I saw of him.

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ya need a bumper sticker that sez '' I am not in a hurry and your not that important'' :lol:

I do carry ,,, ya just got to figure wen and were 8)

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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Ron Luebke » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:47 am

I pray all the time I never have to use my weapon in a defensive situation, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I will defend myself and family if need be. Practice practice practice is very important, know your weapon well. Range time is a good time anyway.
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby clm2112 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:09 am

Ron Luebke wrote:I pray all the time I never have to use my weapon in a defensive situation, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I will defend myself and family if need be. Practice practice practice is very important, know your weapon well. Range time is a good time anyway.


Best attitude to have. I've only needed to defend myself once, and that confrontation ended without a round being fired. Looking down the bore of an 12ga Remington 870 was enough to make the intruder reconsider their plan of attack. I figure that statistically, I will never find myself in that kind of situation ever again in my life. But I would rather have the means to defend myself and not need it, than not have the means and rely solely on the compassion of a criminal. Either way, keep practicing, it is good mental exercise. If you have any local clubs that do IDPA competition, try it out. Even if you are no good at it, it is fun practice and teaches good pistol handling skills that most folks will never pick up just doing target practice.

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Re: Conceal carry

Postby KETCHAM » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:25 am

I had to many instances in Md[just north of DC] when I lived there....that was one factor in me moving to Ohio.....Nothing like getting a gun or guns pulled on you late at night while out riding in the city...Most were just yahoo's ....but still no fun...the night I did pull was 4 guys in a Camaro...2 pulled on me and seemed serious...I pulled and shot between front and back seat...They shot thru the red light and were gone..never did hear another thing about it...That's when I decided to get out of Maryland...Just wasn't worth it anymore..I don't miss it...though I do miss my friends...I have not carried here in Ohio,,,25 years now..Lots of gangs from what I here now in Wheaton...Moving to Ohio was a great choice...I hate big citys......
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Re: Conceal carry

Postby Dennis » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:55 am

Sorry, but this topic has strayed and is being sealed for posterity.

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