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Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Smokeycub » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:40 pm

I found this at the same estate sale. It's circa 1880 - 1910 (I think) and is extremely heavy.
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I've done some research on it and found very little. What I have found says it's a well built machine and somewhat advanced for its time. The second brass plate seems to have been added later. It has about an 8" chuck and a working length of about 24", overall it's about 6' wide. It runs on a series of stepped flat belt pulleys and someone has added an electric motor, not sure if was originally driven by steam or not. I believe most if not all the pieces are there for basic operations. All I have to do now is figure out how to get it out of the basement, it must weight 2500 to 3000 lbs. I plan on taking the major pieces off and use a cherry picker to move the main body, then lift it out through an outside entrance with a skid steer. I got it for a very reasonable price too.

Does anyone have any working knowledge of Finchburg Machine Works or this lathe?
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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Mr E » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:22 pm

Nice find. We should all have a Lull in our barn for times like this. :lol:

No knowledge on the lathe, though.
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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby p5388 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:28 pm

Old lathes like that are awesome!
Don't know anything about the Fitchburg, but I picked up a Flathers from the same era, that had been converted to electric motor, old machinist died and his son was going to haul it across the scales - I got it for scrap price, with all the tooling. :shock:

I have a smaller Smithy Drill Mill Lathe for the little stuff, but when I want to get serious, I fire the ol' Flathers up :D

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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Lee_Petrie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:51 am

Did you get the "thread cutting" carriage gears on the sale ? If not, ( which is usually the case ), they can be "matched" with Boston gears , in most cases , I always like that lathe feature , of cutting threads, internal and external ! I've got a Chas. Mann lathe , same vintage as yours , along with a couple of other Atlas brand lathes, NONE have the "quick change feature)", but I managed to make-up a gear set for each of my lathes , I enjoy my , "pieces of history", that still has a purpose in life today ! Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.

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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Smokeycub » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:21 am

p5388 wrote:Old lathes like that are awesome!
I agree! I haven't got it home yet but will Saturday. I'm hoping to be able to thread things, I've seen where it's possible to cut keyways (internal and external) and even cut gears with these things. I'm pretty sure that currently it isn't capable of threading.
Lee_Petrie wrote:they can be "matched" with Boston gears , in most cases
I'm hoping that will be the case.
p5388 wrote:I picked up a Flathers from the same era

Yours looks like quite the piece. Very similar in size. Mine is driven from underneath, the motor is hung from the very heavy duty cast iron legs.
I'll be back with more as I get into it. :coffee:
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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Smokeycub » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:32 pm

I finally got it back home. I picked it up last Saturday (20th) (in the rain) with the help of my son, a friend, and his son. I took the engine hoist to move it, good thing I did because there was no moving it without it. The hoist was set at 2000 lb. lift and moved it pretty well. Fortunately the P/O had a skid steer to lift it out of the outside cellar door. It's been raining pretty much since but I got enough of a break this Saturday (27th) to unload it and get it into my shop and reassembled.
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It took me half a day to clear out the spot I wanted it at. :roll: In this pic I have a front wheel spindle from a truck chucked up, playing around, checking for runout and such. This machine has a bed that swivels, I guess to make angle cuts, and the horizontal axis is off by about .025" in a foot. The tail stock is off by even more. Fortunately they are both easy adjustments. Now all I need are a couple belts and it should be in business.
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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Lee_Petrie » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:59 pm

Hi Ray, We've been "on the road", with the Summer vacation time, sorry for the delay, usually every 2 or 3 days I find a good WI-FI hot spot and I can fire up the lap-top ! " I guess to make angle cuts, and the horizontal axis is off by about .025" in a foot. The tail stock is off by even more ", Yes your on the right track with moving the tailstock , in and out, to correct those Issues ! To change the subject, in a junk shop the other day, I found a IH Wind-breaker , may I can adjust it to fit my Cub , for plowing the snow in the COLD Winter ! I be very happy to answer any lathe question in the future, Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.

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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Smokeycub » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:18 pm

I got the old lathe up and running the end of last week and I promptly broke a part, the part that drives the head at full speed (the same speed as the top pulley set). Without this part the head runs on gear reduction at 22 rpm, I'm here to tell you that is slow. It runs at 188 rpm when that part is engaged. Anyhow I managed to reproduce the part on the lathe :D. I'll call it a widget (a term I recall from high school mechanical drawing class).
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This is what I broke, it's upside down in the pic for some reason. It's cast iron and it broke right at the spot it goes from large (5/8") to small (5/16").
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This is what I started with - a 5/8" grade 5 bolt.
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This is what I machined on the lathe.
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Here it's in process.

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Here's the part installed in it's holder, which screws into a gear behind the head. As shown it engages another sprocket that spins the head.
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In this position the gears disengaged and are affectively in neutral. There is a spring inside that holds the piece in the disengaged position and a tiny dowel or roll pin that holds it down when it engaged. The thumb pull bit was originally staked onto the end, I threaded the new part and tapped the thumb piece and screwed them together.

I'm pretty happy with the outcome and it works real nice.
Ray
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Re: Fitchburg Machine Works Lathe

Postby Lee_Petrie » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:43 pm

Hi Ray,
It appears that maybe you might have engaged the "back gear for thread cutting" at the same time the pin that drives the chuck at the normal higher speed was still engaged ! In any event , Keep you eye on the newly made pin for wear , #5 bolts are only "case-hardened" on the outside , when you cut that away , the softer metal is exposed ! Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.


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