IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

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IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby inairam » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:49 pm

When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby T-Mo » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:27 am

Economic espionage is a felony, and can have serious consequences, including jail time. I don't know if I would be sharing that story if I was the guy, though it's a fine line in what's considered a crime. But sneaking in on a convention would be a violation of ethics, and can be construed as economic espionage. Today, it that were to happen he could be seeing up to 20 years in a federal prison.

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Re: IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby BigBill » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:00 pm

Industrial espionage. That's stealing some else's secrets.

I was a class A machine builder. I'm assembling a new prototype CNC machine. No transmission First of its kind direct motor drive using a belt. It's for our government to manufacture parts for the m1 Abrams tank engine.
I get a call asking me to steal the blue prints for our Japanese competition. I said no hung up the phone and grabbed the boss and told him. He took the prints off the floor. I'm not going to go to jail for no one. That's thirty years ago. No kick backs here. I'm proud of my locally to America and the company. I have a security clearence for doing government work and stuff for NASA. I know nothing.

I built machines for the m1 Abrams tank, 155mm howitzers for the us Army. I assembled the 155mm howitzers for the us Army. And did work for NASA,

Avco lycomming who manufactures turbine engines purchased a machine from Japan that couldn't cut the steel for the main turbine rotor. They came to my company and we built it. A American machine. The government inspector seen us doing a horsepower cut on the NASA machine. You put a steel billet on the chuck. And drive a 1" carbide cutter while increasing the feed rate till we pull the maximum amperage out of the drive motor. Those 6" long curly cues were coming off that billet slamming the guards like bullets. The inspector was impressed.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby T-Mo » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:04 am

Yes, there are regulations and laws in place, both federal and international laws and regulations concerning espionage. We can not share information unless through proper channels and through proper permissions. Spying in on your competition's convention is against all laws and regulations, unless invited and then you would probably have to sign an agreement that you can not disclose any information you come across or seen.

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Re: IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby cubbrian » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:01 pm

Judging from the fact that Deere let it go, it was apparently a 2-way street as far as spying goes.

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Re: IH SNUCK A SPY INTO A JOHN DEERE CONVENTION

Postby Super A » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:28 pm

cubbrian wrote:Judging from the fact that Deere let it go, it was apparently a 2-way street as far as spying goes.


Yeah. Everyone is kinda missing the point here. Bud Youle was a legend in the IH engineering world. He's a walking encyclopedia of IH engineering and one of those guys that's forgotten more about IH than most have ever known. And yes it was certainly a two-way street. There are documented cases of JD purchasing one of the latest IH machines for dissection, and I'm sure it went the other way too. About the only time JD got huffy about it was over their new corn head in the late 70s. That cost IH BIG.

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