Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:57 am
For anyone who may have had a difficult time finding or not able to find a supplier for Arm & Hammer Super washing soda, I found a Net site that specializes in soaps.
They have the A&H Super Washing Soda it's $4.50 a box + shipping.
Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:38 am
arm and hammer Fabricare works fine, sodium carbonate is the ingredient necessary, if i recall Jim Becker's post correctly. Tri-sodium Phosphate can also be used, and you can find that in Lowe's or Home Depot paint section.
i couldn't find washing soda either.
i'm getting excellent results with the fabricare, and then it's a fast sandblast job in the cabinet.
Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:39 pm
Glad to see someone using the Electrolysis Rust removal Process. Just a hint, the Washing Soda in all the grocery stores I have checked is in the "washing detergent" section. I have had people to tell me there were looking in the "baking soda" section.
Artc, I would like to hear more about the sandblasting after electrolysis. Is it greatly easier, take less sand/blasting material, and what about metal removal.
Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:04 pm
I found washing soda at Ace Hardware HRIDER45
Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:42 am
A reliable source for sodium carbonate is the pool chemical section at your local home and garden center. It goes by different names, but basically it's the chemical added to increase pH in your swimming pool.
Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:36 am
i did both fenders, the seat post parts, and and a few other items last Sunday in short order. takes longer to load the sand and get ready than to do the part. removed the leftover black stuff from the derust process, as well as whatever paint was still on the part.
no noticable good material removal.
i'm not looking to make this tractor a 'trailer queen', but repair and reburbish it with an eye on originality. it will have the C3 mower back on it and do some mowing next summer.
Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:53 pm
I am grateful for all the advice here. I have never used electrolysis, but after reading lots of articles and some web searches I am ready to give it a try. I wish I knew of this before restoring the Cub. Lots of people have recomended using lye over washing soda. I have learned throughout paramedic class that one drop of lye in the eye will cause blindness in a matter of seconds. Just wanted to pass along a word of caution. Thanks for all the great advice.
Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:43 pm
I must have missed the question concerning A&H washing powders . Is it used to wash the tractor or with electralysis or something else? Elmer.
Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:17 pm
Elmer Fields wrote:I must have missed the question concerning A&H washing powders . Is it used to wash the tractor or with electralysis or something else? Elmer.
Elmer, The washing soda is mixed 1 tablespoon W.S. to one gallon of water for the solution that your part to be de-rusted is soaking in. I dont have it handy but if you find any post by Rudi you will find a link to his manual page at bottom of his post. On the manual page is a link with pictures and info for electrolysis cleaning.
BTW, I have good luck with A&H washing soda bought at local grocery store laundry section. $2.50 for a 3 pound box that will last me for years. I personally would not take the risk of using lye.
Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:45 pm
I think I have info. already. Must have had a major brainlock. They seem to be more frequent, (as best I can recall.)
Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:07 pm
after removing the part from the de-rust tank, i get an enormous 'charge' out of simply hosing off most of the paint.
fenders, wheel centers, seats, springs, and anything else i can fit in there stripped down gets tanked.
stuck in a seriously rusted set of cultivator lift springs...took them out and removed the locking bolts with hand tools. almost finger tight!
and you can dump the tank when you are finished without feeling guilty, no environmental harm.
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