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Postby Buggyscott » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:50 am

I have been working on MY Missey for the last couple of weeks and I have learned the following. Parts for Cub can be had, several good suppliers out there. Also I learned that I need some tools, got a impact wrench and beefed up my socket sets and other hand tools. Cann't justify a torch or welder just now but who knows about the future. Manuals and parts book are a must. What I have really learned is that my biggest enemy is rusted bolts and studs. These are the source of my greatest fustration and also give me the greatest satisfation when I score a point. Penatrating oil, heat, patience, left twist drill bits, cheater bars are now my best allies. Just curious, am I alone in figuring rust as my worst enemy here or is this a comman fustration. Also helpful hints in this battle are welcome.

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Postby Ron » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:09 am

No, I think you hit the nail on the head.

All you mentioned about tools and especially manuals are very true.

Rusty stuff can be a real pain!!

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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:18 am

Ditto:mrgreen: :{_}:

Snapped the head off of the gooseneck on Ellie :oops: :roll: :(

Next time I get close to a good welder and have my mig fixed up with gas, gonna weld a nut to what is left and hopefully get it out.

Since I have gotten Ellie, the only other collection aside from the implements and tractors that has grown, is my mechanics tools. I think I am going to have to buy another roll around cabinet :roll: :lol:
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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:21 am

Aside from rust, the repairs / modifications of previous owners is probably the next most frustrating problem encountered. Especially if the previous owner had a torch or a welder.
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:07 am

If you want a rel interesting project take on one like my 48 was when I bought it 17 years ago. It had been sadly neglected, and was not in running condition, but had a good recent paint job on it. Trying to get penetrating oil through a good layer of paint is interesting.
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Postby Arizona Mike » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:59 am

Take your time and be patient. I have been soaking a 57 yr. old Cub with PB and WD 40 for one week...applying at least one fresh coat/day to all stubborn looking fasteners...2 cans of PB, 6 cans of WD 40.. :roll: :roll:

Take a small hammer and tap the bolts nuts and screws that look real bad as you are recoating them.

Yesterday, I was able to remove the seat post and seat, and the battery box (original). These are two of the toughest rust areas. They came off with a socket wrench without any problems. Also was able to remove and salvage the old high tower clamps :D

This might seem like a lenghtly procees but I think it will will save time and frustration in the future :) :)

Good luck.

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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:57 am

Mike:

Is that 563?

Looks like it is in pretty darn good shape for a 47 :!: Looks a little shiney too. Must be the 6 cans of WD40 :!: :roll: :lol:
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Postby David D. smith » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:41 pm

Rudi wrote: Ditto:mrgreen: :{_}:

Snapped the head off of the gooseneck on Ellie :oops: :roll: :(

Next time I get close to a good welder and have my mig fixed up with gas, gonna weld a nut to what is left and hopefully get it out.

Since I have gotten Ellie, the only other collection aside from the implements and tractors that has grown, is my mechanics tools. I think I am going to have to buy another roll around cabinet :roll: :lol:


I was looking for a tool cabnet for tools that are not often used. If you put the words tool and cabinet together, the price doubles
I happend to go through a Salvation Army, Thrift Store and found 3 heavy duty office cainets for $40. Not on rollers, but I can walk over to the wall to get what I need from them.
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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:02 pm

David:

Wooden tool cabinets are great! I have all wooden ones for my cabinet and furniture making tools. So far I haven't got any really good mechanics tools that might possibly require wooden drawers, but I think I just may make myself some more. Will probably make em on rollers as well!

Sally Ann and other Neighbourhood thrift type stores are great places to get some real good bargains. Same with Crown Asset Sales (Government Surplus) and some antique aution houses. I am getting all my push type reel mowers from an auction house for rather cheap prices. Find the occassional nice tool there as well.

Anytime I can save a few bucks and still get reasonable quality, makes for a good day.

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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:06 pm

As Mike mentioned, paitence pays off. 3 years ago I bought a cub that had been in a fire and then left setting outside for several years. I set it in the backyard, and twice a week for a couple months I would go by it and squirt every bolt I could get to with Liquid wrench. When I finally started dismatling it I ended up breaking 2 rear lug bolts. Not bad considering I completely dismanteld the rust bucket.
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Postby Arizona Mike » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:35 pm

Hi Rudi

Yes that's 563 soaking up the stuff. Makes getting the dirt and grease off easier too. Its a very original old Cub and has had a pretty easy life.

Overheard alot of the folks at Cubarama saying "too bad Rudi couldn't make it." :(

I agree ....you would have liked it.

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Postby Rudi » Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:30 am

Mike:

Please keep us informed as you make progress on "ole 563". Looks like it will be an interesting project. Sure is nice to see a 47 in that good a condition.

Btw, thanks for the comment. Not sure what to say, kinda left speechless. Sure wish I could have been there to meet all you wonderful guys :!:
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