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rake implement for cub?

Postby Galen » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:33 pm

Can anyone tell me if International offered a rake implement for the cub- either mid ship or behind. I would like to have one for driveway maintenance. If there is one can anyone supply a picture or have one for sale. Thanks in advance -Galen

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Postby Rudi » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:47 pm

Galen:

First let me extend a warm welcome to the very best Forum on the Net and to our Wonderful Cub Family :!: :D

To answer your question, I have seen this pic before on some site, don't know who it belongs to, but I like the idea and I want to make one for my Cubs. Thought about it for a couple of years now and maybe this winter I will make it.

Let me know if this is what you had in mind. Also, any design ideas would be helpful and appreciated. Always looking for projects to put on the server.

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Postby artc » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:47 pm

or something like this?

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called a spike tooth, or peg tooth, or drag, depending on what part of the country you are from.
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Postby Galen » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:56 pm

Yes, I had the belly mounted rake in mind but a pull-behind would do. I imagine E-bay might someday list a rake or I could try local tractor dealers. Any thoughts regarding sales? In worst casr, one could be fabricated from parts but I would rather it be authentic to Farmall Cub
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Postby Ron L » Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:57 pm

Rudi. That belly rake is really cool! Would you happen to know if it was fabricated utilizing grader blade hardware? Can't tell by the pic......
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Postby Rudi » Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:23 pm

Galen:

As far as I know from the literature I have seen and from comments on the various forums, there is no "authentic Farmall Cub stone rake".

If one may have been available at all it would have been manufactured by a third party possibly approved by IH. Jim Becker, Guy Fay and probably Mike Schmudlach would be in a better position to say yeah or nay on this point.

As far as control for depth/angle the belly mount would be far superior. Would not be all that hard to fabricate.

Also, rockett88 (John), bought a 3-point stone rake and modified the hardware to fit the Cub and apparently works real well.

Ron:

You are right, As the kids today say - it is waaaay cool!

From what I can tell, it is just a standard 3x3 or 4x4 angle iron with tines bolted to it. I cannot make out the mounting hardware either, so it will be a design challenge.

I have talked to a buddy (he is the head mechanic for the construction company that is playing in my back yard :D ) and he is of the opinion that it would not be hard to fabricate. It would just be tedious work drilling about 35 pairs of 3/8" holes to mount the tines. It is really hard to make out, but there is an pivot plate with pins to angle the blade in either direction. This also would be rather simple - I think I would set it up for 90 deg., 45 deg. and 22.5 degrees.

I played with the jpeg a bit, maybe this might make it easier to see.

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To fabricate, my thoughts would be to use say 2-1/2 x 2-1/2 x 1/4" angle, tines from a spring tooth harrow - depending on the size of the tines any where from 15 to 30 of them equally spaced - drilled and bolted to the angle. There would have to be some say 2"x2" square stock to make a pair of arms/support bars that would go back to either the drawbar or the mounting pads. There would have to be another 2"x2" square stock with the pivot plate welded to it and the arm extending to the front tool bars. I would think that would provide enough stability. Both these arm assemblies would have to be able to roll vertically to account for lift and the lift would be accomplished either with chains or lift rods similar to the old Cub Blade. Just a few thoughts. Remember, I am a cabinetmaker not a steel fabricator, so my ideas could be full of hooey :!: :roll: :roll: :D

I have two major projects that I would like to get done this winter. One is the reel mower project and the second is the stone rake.

My kids want a rugby pitch in the back 40, so I will definitely need the rake to get rid of the stones and finish grade the pitch, and the mower to cut the grass a couple times a week. Gee - I just thought about it - SEAT TIME :!: :idea: :lol: :lol:

Now ifn some of the creative minds that haunt this forum were to come up with some suggestions, they would be accepted with open arms and a glad heart :!:

I would think that this could be fabricated for probably around $100.00 to $200.00 for the steel, tines and bolts etc.
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Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:30 pm

The only Cub stone rake I can think of right now is an attachment for the Armor blade (Fast-Hitch). The rake goes on in place of the blade. I saw one out at PJ's during Cub-Arama.

Taking that idea as a cue, anyone that has an IH blade might be able to make a rake to go in place of the blade, using the entire blade frame. All the lift and angling parts are alrady done.

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Postby Ron L » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:33 pm

Jim. Exactly what I was thinking. It would seem to be easy enough.........
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Postby Rudi » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:09 pm

AAAAHHHH DUHHHH :!: :roll: :oops: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sometimes I am just sooooooo thick :!: Why didn't I think of that :?: :?:

I think y'all just made the project simpler :!:

Jim:

Any idea how many tines were on that rake you saw? Any chance for a pic?
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Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:45 pm

Looks like 32 teeth across about 60 inches. There is a brochure on the TM site. I have a picture from JP's that I may be able to get shrunk to posting size after a while.

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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:11 am

Jim:

Any chance you could email me the pic???? Got my buddy coming over this evening and I would like to get his opinion on i. Thanks
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