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w6 steering issues

Postby artc » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:32 pm

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looks to me as if this steering control arm has been bent. it hit's the drag link and only allows about 1/2 of the turning angle. and i note wear marks as if it's been doing that for years. but at 1.25 diameter solid steel, it's a stretch to think of the impact needed to bend it. anyone have a picture of a w6 steering set up properly? and it looks like the tie rod end is bent up, too.

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Postby beaconlight » Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:03 pm

You hit hard enough and often enough you can bend anything Iffn it don't break. You can see missalignment in two spots so your steering has to have been bent. I did a cold iron blacksmith to bend the arm from the touch control to the Rockshaft so it doesn't hit the fenders on my low boy. I did not have a rockshaft when i bought the low boy. I didn't know which rod i needed so i got the straight one figuring it would be easier to bend than straighten. With a big vise on a heavy bench wedged against a concrete wall and a 2" pipe over the end of the rod it bent like hot knife through butter.

By the way how you guys doing with the Fairbanks Morse move.

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Postby artc » Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:45 pm

we moved the fairbanks last week. http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6252

to view. they're safely at the farm. our first show is May 7-8 this year. take a ride off the island for the day, i'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. and i'd like to meet cub guys :!:
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Postby beaconlight » Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:30 pm

Thanks I missed that post. I was up the country and when i got back my DSL was a fit because of a loose connection on the tel co side of the interface. Had to fix it my self but i am ok now.

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Postby artc » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:33 am

with comments from a couple of other forums, a look at Guy Fay's letter series book, and a couple of pic's from a guy in Saskachaun, Canada (sp), the drag link looks to be bent probably 3 inches in the verticle plane, and where the tie rod attaches is bent up about 3/4 inch.
combining those two corrections should put everything back where they belong.

this tractor has proven to be more challanging than a cub for the simple fact that when I had questions on the cub, the answers come from this board, real time. The W6 project, cause there's not so many around, has had more head scratching. still, i'm enjoying the refurbishment immensely.

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Postby artc » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:23 pm

lets see if fine pic's viewer edits better than IRFanview.

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my w6... ready to go to the painter :D :D :D :D
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Postby beaconlight » Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:28 pm

Got one of the other side where all the steering questions were.

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Postby parts man » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:10 pm

That's looking really sharp Art!! Should be a real peach when she's painted and decalled!! 8)
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Postby artc » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:08 pm

here's a pic of the steering - corrected

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Postby parts man » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:35 pm

Steering looks great,, nice job Art!!
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Postby Bigdog » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:40 pm

The whole tractor looks great!
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1950 cub, 1948 cub, 1941 A, 1948 H, 1963 B414, 1958 240U, 1947 Oliver 60 industrial, Oliver 70 industrial. IH 450, 1963, another 1948 cub, 1946 I6 with Trogan front blade.
Location: CT, Middletown
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Postby artc » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:49 pm

put the W6 up on the trailer for her trip to the beauty salon :lol: she'll get painted on monday. the brakes were an issue during the rebuild as everything inside the brake covers was either broken, bent or rewelded incorrectly. so today when i was asked (while we were prepping to run it down off the trailer into the body shop......) does it have brakes.....My only answer was that i believed i had repaired it correctly, but the proof's in the pudding, as they say. left it in gear with the clutch depressed for insurance.........but the brakes worked just fine...i'm excited to get this one running :!: :!:
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In working clothes:
1950 cub, 1948 cub, 1941 A, 1948 H, 1963 B414, 1958 240U, 1947 Oliver 60 industrial, Oliver 70 industrial. IH 450, 1963, another 1948 cub, 1946 I6 with Trogan front blade.
Location: CT, Middletown
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Postby artc » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:26 pm

went to pick up the w6 today ......all painted :!: :D :D one catch... the body shop is located VERY near the connecticut river.......and the river is in flood stage fro mall the rain and melting snow north of us.....the body shop is now locate on an ISLAND :!: :!: the decking on my tandom trailer was the only thing out of the water, not counting the wheel wells. had to exit the vehicle using the passenger door......a bit tough in these pickups nowadays with center consoles......

but she sure is PURTY :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

pic's soon
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