Although I have always thought it silly to name a tractor, "ol whitey" seems to fit. At any rate, we had a welcome thunderstorm blow in this evening, so I worked on my white demo Super A. I put some fresh oil in each cylinder, installed the new plugs, and after some hand cranking, she came to life with no knocks or unusual noises! Oil pressure gauge is questionable, but it does have some oil pressure. The governor doesn't seem very responsive. I can hear the driveshaft turning in the transmission so I am afraid the transmission is going to be a little noisy but will just have to wait and see.....
It sure is fun to get a "dead" one to run again.....
Al
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"Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Super A » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:49 pm
"12 volt conversions are for quitters"
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Don McCombs » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:03 am
Congratulations, Al.
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by VinceD » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:58 pm
Congrats, Al. Yes, when a dead one comes back to life it does give one a great sense of accomplishment. 
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Super A » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:39 pm
Well I probably crowed a little too quick, I couldn't get her to take off this evening. I think the carb has some issues, the float is wanting to stick and it floods way easy. Plus timing is a tad off. The hand crank tried to "kick back" on me so I quit before I hurt myself. Hopefully I can take another look tomorrow.
Al
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"12 volt conversions are for quitters"
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Hengy » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:11 am
Need some video of Ol' Whitey... I love to hear them come back to life!!!
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Super A » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:29 am
I got it going again this morning and actually drove it around a little bit. I am afraid the compression is pretty weak. I was trying to find TDC on #1 and even with a shot of oil in the cylinder, it was hard to detect it was coming up on compression.
It is making pretty good oil pressure with no knocks or other distressing noises. No bubbles in the coolant, etc. The transmission is VERY noisy, and there's even a slight knock in the transmission when it's just sitting. I drove it in reverse, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and did not hear anything that sounds like broken teeth, but I expect it will at least need bearings throughout the transmission to calm it down.
Maybe I can get it cranked this evening or tomorrow and get my wife to take some video.
Al
It is making pretty good oil pressure with no knocks or other distressing noises. No bubbles in the coolant, etc. The transmission is VERY noisy, and there's even a slight knock in the transmission when it's just sitting. I drove it in reverse, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and did not hear anything that sounds like broken teeth, but I expect it will at least need bearings throughout the transmission to calm it down.
Maybe I can get it cranked this evening or tomorrow and get my wife to take some video.
Al
"12 volt conversions are for quitters"
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Hengy » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:37 am
If the tractor has been sitting and if you have determined that the valves are working, I'll bet that running a little seafoam in the gas and oil might loosen things up a little bit. Is it smoking a bunch or no?
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Winfield Dave » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:19 pm
Another way to find TDC - not sure if it applies to SA: An Alternative Take on Finding TDC When Timing A CubSuper A wrote:I was trying to find TDC on #1 and even with a shot of oil in the cylinder, it was hard to detect it was coming up on compression.
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Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Super A » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:14 pm
WisconsinCubMan wrote:If the tractor has been sitting and if you have determined that the valves are working, I'll bet that running a little seafoam in the gas and oil might loosen things up a little bit. Is it smoking a bunch or no?
Mike in La Crosse, WI
It doesn't seem to be smoking much, and I put a lot of oil in the cylinders so I wonder if that's some of what I'm seeing. Engine hasn't run enough to come up to full operating temp yet. What's the recommended amount of seafoam to add to the oil without diluting it too much?
Al
"12 volt conversions are for quitters"
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
IH's are RED. Just say NO to yellow and white!
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
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Grandfather's 1948 Super A
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1954 Super A-1
856
Buncha other junk - Circle of Safety: Y
Re: "Ol Whitey" Runs!
by Don McCombs » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:08 pm
Super A wrote:What's the recommended amount of seafoam to add to the oil without diluting it too much?
Follow the recommendation on the can.
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1948 Farmall Super A, IH 22 Mower
1951 Farmall Super C w/FH
MD, Deep Creek Lake
"1950 Something" Farmall Cub, Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
1977 IH Cub w/FH, L-F194 Moldboard Plow, L-38 Disk, L-F1 Platform Carrier, Mott FHC Mower
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