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1650 Hydraulics

Postby clodhopper » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:57 am

Anyone know how much weight the hydraulics will lift on a 1650?
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Re: 1650 Hydraulics

Postby gitractorman » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:32 pm

Not sure that there is a straight forward answer for you. If you mean by the center lift mechanism (rockshaft) where the mower mounts and the snow blade mounts, probably a couple hundred pounds under the belly of the tractor. If you mean using the lift rod out to the snow blade, I would guess 100 pounds would be about it. If you mean the rear rockshaft for the 3-point hitch, it depends on how far behind the tractor the weight is, but I know I've lifted the tongue of my boat trailer with the 3-point pin itself, which is about 300 pounds. I wouldn't recommend it, but it will do it.
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Re: 1650 Hydraulics

Postby clodhopper » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:55 pm

I guess I should have been more specific. :oops: I am converting a powered tiller (towable) to work with the hydraulic lift on the rear. I am fabricating a quasi sleeve hitch in place of the factory hitch on the tiller. The tiller only weighs about 100 pounds, so I should be ok. I just have to keep it as close to the rear of the tractor as possible, to reduce leverage effect of the weight.

Because this is the only implement I will use on the 1650, I am not buying or building a sleeve hitch. I am going to use this tiller for all my tillage, and use the cub for grader blade work and cultivation.

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Re: 1650 Hydraulics

Postby clodhopper » Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:03 am

ok...here is the finished product. This originally had a three point hitch on it (cat I ) I cut it down with the saw and torch and refabbed it to fit the cadet. Tried it out this afternoon and it works GREAT. The key is the hydrostatic trans on the cadet. It really shines through when you need fine speed control !
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Re: 1650 Hydraulics

Postby dhermesc » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:26 am

I've looked at doing the same thing behind my 1450. I had the IH tiller and was not very impressed with it's work.

I'm guessing the hydraulics had no problem lifting the set up? My experiance has been as long you don't lift the front end off the ground the rear lift can handle the weight.
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Re: 1650 Hydraulics

Postby clodhopper » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:07 pm

dhermesc wrote:I've looked at doing the same thing behind my 1450. I had the IH tiller and was not very impressed with it's work.

I'm guessing the hydraulics had no problem lifting the set up? My experiance has been as long you don't lift the front end off the ground the rear lift can handle the weight.


There are a couple of reasons I went this route. One is, as you said, and I have read quite alot, that the IH tiller left ALOT to be desired, besides the fact that they are impossible to find within driving distance. The second reason is I got a STEAL of a deal on this tiller. It was brand new, never had any oil in it, and I got it for 1/4 the list price.

As far as the lift goes, it handles this quite nicely. I suspect my lift is not 100%. Without a hydraulic test gauge its just a guess. Nonetheless, I am HAPPY with this setup, as it keeps my cub free for grading and cultivation. :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:
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