Noisy gears

[clodhopper]

I opened up the shifter cover today to look around. Cleaned the oil holes (front one appeared to be blocked) I noticed that going downhill, there is no noise at all. As soon as the tractor starts to "pull" there is a terrible whine. It seems to be the same way in all gears. I have read alot on here, but I am not well versed on these trannys. I know straight cut gears will have some whine, but not this much. I flushed it and filled it last year, and other than some crud in the flow channels going to the front and rear oil holes (which I cleaned out) everything looks good, clean, and without corrosion. Any thoughts?

[cub47]

Does it make the same noise under load in reverse?

[clodhopper]

Does it make the same noise under load in reverse?

as best I remember it does

[cub47]

I have had reverse idler gears cause those symptoms before. I have also had what I initially thought was gear noise but found out it was loose lug bolts on the wheel and/or the wheel center mounting bolts to the rim were loose, just something else to consider.

[mrdibs]

Sounds more like the finals to me. Remove covers and look for metal maybe..

[clodhopper]

Update. It is much more noticeable in 2nd gear than any other. All other gears whine about the same amount...not that loud. 2nd is LOUD.

[ntrenn]

This is probably your 2nd gear noise....

I tore down my parts tractor transmission due to an ungodly howl from it in first and reverse. Second wasn't as bad - maybe it didn't seen that bad because first was SO bad. That particular transmission had failed 1/R slider and the 2nd gear on the 2/3 slider to go along with bearings getting close to end of life - the front ball bearings were pitted and the diff preload was gone. Tractor had been rode hard in its life. It's now doing rehab mowing the yard.

[clodhopper]

I certainly have to remove the shifter cover again and look more closely. Funny thing is, I seldomly use 2nd gear. I plow and cultivate in 1st, and if I am moving around I use third. I even pull the hayride in first (lots of kids aboard). Thanks for the picture, now I know what I am looking for, and where the wear locations are likely on the gears.

[ntrenn]

I also have an example of one with the splines wallowed out....that will cause it too....