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Front axle pivot

Postby ReTractor » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:10 pm

The pivot thrust washers are gone on my front axle. If I take it apart to fix that I might as well change the bushings in there too. Are the bushings some funky size or can they be had at a bearing house or mcmaster Carr? Any one have the i.d x o.d x length? I guess the same question applies to the thrust washers too. Is it likely that the shaft in there is going to be beat up too? It's been pretty well greased up since I've had it (3 yrs) but no telling maintenance history before that. Thanks
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby RaymondDurban » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:29 pm

Here you go, this will save you the runaround of having to try and make them:
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http://www.tmtractor.com/new/st/518fp.htm
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby lazyuniondriver » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:42 pm

RaymondDurban wrote:Here you go, this will save you the runaround of having to try and make them:
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/st/262fp.htm
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/st/518fp.htm


Wow... Actually double wow, almost $60.00 bucks plus shipping for the parts. If your cub is a hobby tractor I would search for an alternative suitable method of repair that is about $50 bucks cheaper!
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby RaymondDurban » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:58 pm

lazyuniondriver wrote:Wow... Actually double wow, almost $60.00 bucks plus shipping for the parts. If your cub is a hobby tractor I would search for an alternative suitable method of repair that is about $50 bucks cheaper!

Buy the materials, make these parts and ship them to my door for $3.00 a piece and I'll be your first customer.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Rudi » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:42 pm

Thrust washers by definition are expensive. Even for my JD lawnmower they are pricey. For something as critical as the front axle pivot - I would only use materials that are either OEM or built to spec replacements. And yeah I am frugal but within reason.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Are you sure the bushings need to be replaced? I've never had to do that.

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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Boss Hog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:19 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:Are you sure the bushings need to be replaced? I've never had to do that.

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You must not have seen many NC cubs :D :lol:
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Former Member » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:29 pm

Boss Hog wrote:
Bob McCarty wrote:Are you sure the bushings need to be replaced? I've never had to do that.

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You must not have seen many NC cubs :D :lol:


Or TN cubs.I have had them so thin they looked like foil. Have had others that were so bad, both ends were broken off the axle and the pin was held in place with just going through the axle tube.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby lazyuniondriver » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:33 pm

Rudi wrote: I would only use materials that are either OEM or built to spec replacements.


Thrust washers and bushings are sacrificial. They are made to be chewed up or worn down instead of the component or components they are mated with, those aforementioned components usually of much higher material value.

You have to remember today's lubricants far surpass anything available as far back as even the turn of this century. Greases that even a pressure washer won't take out allow the manufacturers of today to eliminate bushings, thrust washers, and sadly grease Zerks because of zero friction lubricants. Metal to metal with no friction because of good grease is the way today's world spins.

Sometimes you have to take into account today's technology when repairing antiquated equipment. I'll go ahead and stick my neck out by saying if one of my tractors was missing the thrust washers, they'd be replaced with mild steel and lubricated wth premium grease at regular intervals. Sure there is nothing like using OEM parts, but if you can be frugal by applying today's technology to combat exorbitant parts prices, do it.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Boss Hog » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:20 pm

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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby lazyuniondriver » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:42 pm

Boss Hog wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/180898026647?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Buy It Now.. 6.95! The only thing that could make that deal sweeter would be FREE SHIPPING!

That is not what I would determine to be classified as exorbitant pricing on the bushing. Brass is only a little over a buck fifty a POUND right now.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby ReTractor » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:49 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:Are you sure the bushings need to be replaced? I've never had to do that.

Bob

Good question. I was assuming they might need to be replaced but maybe not. I'm not sure if you could even tell without taking it apart. Maybe better to take it apart, have the thrust washers on hand and take a look at the bushings and then decide. No big deal to order after it is apart. No sense spending money if no need to.
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Re: Front axle pivot

Postby Boss Hog » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:32 pm

you can jack it up and tell if the bushings are worn
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