steering play

Farmall Super A, AV, 1939 - 1954

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.

Re: steering play

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:33 pm

Its not cheap is it? I appreciate the time you two spent finding this for me, thank you.
So when the woodruff key wears out the shaft and steering sector get destroyed where they meet.
Hopefully when I open it up it won't be that bad.
I may end up paying more to fix the steering than I spent for the whole tractor.
At least I can fix it right.
Whats probably a better thing is though pricey the parts are still available for something almost 70 years old and that's kind of amazing really.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: steering play

Postby Super A » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:40 pm

It probably hasn't trashed the shaft/gear too bad. A good machine shop can fix. I have seen aftermarket sector shafts/gears for these tractors in the Steiner catalog that were a lot cheaper. You can cheat and weld the sector gear to the shaft, many have been done this way.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Location: NC, Jacksonville area
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub "The Paperweight"
Cub powered IH 52R combine
Grandfather's 1948 Super A
White demo Super A-"Ol Whitey"
1950 Super A "Old Ugly"
1954 Super A-1
856
Buncha other junk
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: steering play

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:46 pm

What would be the disadvantage of this?


Super A wrote:It probably hasn't trashed the shaft/gear too bad. A good machine shop can fix. I have seen aftermarket sector shafts/gears for these tractors in the Steiner catalog that were a lot cheaper. You can cheat and weld the sector gear to the shaft, many have been done this way.

Al
AL Farmall Boy
501 Club
501 Club
 
Posts: 1209
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:38 pm
Zip Code: 35111

Re: steering play

Postby Super A » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:55 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:What would be the disadvantage of this?


Super A wrote:It probably hasn't trashed the shaft/gear too bad. A good machine shop can fix. I have seen aftermarket sector shafts/gears for these tractors in the Steiner catalog that were a lot cheaper. You can cheat and weld the sector gear to the shaft, many have been done this way.

Al


Nothing much. Main thing is you have to be careful welding it, otherwise the weld bead gets in the way of letting the two halves of the steering gear housing go back together. The one I saw done, they took a grinder and ground a little off the inside of the bottom half of the steering gear housing to allow for the bead. If I ever do another one, I will see if I can get a machine shop to do it and then turn down the weld bead to the same diameter as the shaft.

It will absolutely, positively prevent the gear from moving on the shaft!

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Location: NC, Jacksonville area
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub "The Paperweight"
Cub powered IH 52R combine
Grandfather's 1948 Super A
White demo Super A-"Ol Whitey"
1950 Super A "Old Ugly"
1954 Super A-1
856
Buncha other junk
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: steering play

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:30 pm

I have a spare from my parts SA that had been welded but decided to use the other plus a new woodruff key. So far it's ok. if you need a welded one let me know.
Dale Finch
User avatar
Dale Finch
501 Club
501 Club
 
Posts: 1388
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '52 Cub "Bobbie"
'55 Cub "Bertha"
'55 Cub "Ben"
'48 Super A "Bubba"
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: steering play

Postby Super A » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:26 pm

Mike,

If you buy new parts, check your original shaft. The later ones were tapered, with a big nut on the end. Earlier ones were square on the end and the center steering arm clamped to it. I didn't look at the Steiner website to see if they had both types.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Location: NC, Jacksonville area
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub "The Paperweight"
Cub powered IH 52R combine
Grandfather's 1948 Super A
White demo Super A-"Ol Whitey"
1950 Super A "Old Ugly"
1954 Super A-1
856
Buncha other junk
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: steering play

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:35 am

Hi guys Happy Thanksgiving!
It'll be a bit till I get to pulling this apart, it's been an incredible work saver hauling trees for me.
5 large trees in the last 4 days, just me with a chainsaw and tractor.
I wouldn't know what shape the shaft is, tapered are not but Dale yes I would be interested in the welded unit you have.
It'll simplify things greatly for now. A proper fix can come later. This a '46 would a SA part fit? I'm buying kind of blind right now.
Al I just saw the ad you posted and sent a PM.
Thanks.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: steering play

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:51 am

Super A wrote:Mike,

If you buy new parts, check your original shaft. The later ones were tapered, with a big nut on the end. Earlier ones were square on the end and the center steering arm clamped to it. I didn't look at the Steiner website to see if they had both types.

Al

I'm headed out to the tractor shed to see what I can but I believe the arm is clamped to it.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: steering play

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Yup, its clamped so its square.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Previous

Return to Farmall A, Super A, AV

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bob McCarty and 2 guests