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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Boss Hog » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:36 pm

were you standing there watching just red or yellow and white ones coming off the line Stick
:D My old dealer said he sold some thats all I know I will also have one at the Waller soon . I think I will be able to tell if it is factory paint or not. I have an Idea as the the paint scheme. there are 5 here that I know of by the way
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Super A » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:39 pm

Boss Hog wrote:were you standing there watching just red or yellow and white ones coming off the line Stick
:D My old dealer said he sold some thats all I know I will also have one at the Waller soon . I think I will be able to tell if it is factory paint or not. I have an Idea as the the paint scheme. there are 5 here that I know of by the way
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Red hood, white hood, whatever. The main thing is, you're not painting it yellow!! :big smile:

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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Boss Hog » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:44 pm

Al the one with the white hood and the rest red is one I am acquiring, Not one of the Hog Waller cubs
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Super A » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:06 pm

Boss Hog wrote:Al the one with the white hood and the rest red is one I am acquiring, Not one of the Hog Waller cubs


I can't wait to see it!

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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby RaymondDurban » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:33 pm

Super A wrote:'Cept for the ones that pop up from time to time in original paint that have white hoods....

So I guess you have followed these tractors throughout their lifespan to know that they are original?

I can show you many, many pics of:
Late 40's/early '50s Cubs with square hoods, multibar grilles and fast hitches as well as late model Cubs with round hoods and "Farmall" stickers.
Extra hi-crop sprayers, extra-low LoBoys, trenchers, C-60 powered trains, boats and IceCream carts.
Blue cubs, orange cubs, black cubs, pink cubs, white cubs, blue/white, red/black, and even red/white cubs.
But just because they exist now, in no way confirms that IH made them that way.
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby RaymondDurban » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:42 pm

Boss Hog wrote:were you standing there watching just red or yellow and white ones coming off the line Stick
:D My old dealer said he sold some thats all I know I will also have one at the Waller soon . I think I will be able to tell if it is factory paint or not. I have an Idea as the the paint scheme. there are 5 here that I know of by the way
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Nope, I wasn't. But I'm not making statements I can't back up or find evidence for either. I haven't said one way or the other, cause it certainly is possible. Anythings possible, but, I am saying the red/white paint is improbable.
You may be able to tell if the hood was painted white originally, but you won't be able to tell if it rolled off the line that way.
Without any other information (original pics, IH docs) the easiest explanation is the hoods are dealer replacements.
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Yogie » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:07 am

Be danged if he ain't been around a lot for a young feller.... :lol:

I'll make the 700 mile run over the mountains and back next Sunday just to check all those striped cubs out Boss. Have some sweet tea and nabs ready to keep me awake on the trip back home. :wink:
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:39 am

RaymondDurban wrote:
Boss Hog wrote:were you standing there watching just red or yellow and white ones coming off the line Stick
:D My old dealer said he sold some thats all I know I will also have one at the Waller soon . I think I will be able to tell if it is factory paint or not. I have an Idea as the the paint scheme. there are 5 here that I know of by the way
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Nope, I wasn't. But I'm not making statements I can't back up or find evidence for either. I haven't said one way or the other, cause it certainly is possible. Anythings possible, but, I am saying the red/white paint is improbable.
You may be able to tell if the hood was painted white originally, but you won't be able to tell if it rolled off the line that way.
Without any other information (original pics, IH docs) the easiest explanation is the hoods are dealer replacements.



right strange that they all are with in few hundred of the same serial # on the ones that I know of
And were Farmall Cubs too , I guess they had a bad run on tanks at the start in 64
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Barnyard » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:22 am

Boss Hog wrote:right strange that they all are with in few hundred of the same serial # on the ones that I know of

What is the serial # range so others can check their's. Could be somebody ordered a bunch of them at one time and had the hoods painted to match other company vehicles. They may not have been offered to the public but still sold by a dealer. It most certainly is not worth getting into a war of words over, especially since there is no documentation one way or another.

This is just like the trimmed hood that was on a lot of 1948 Cubs. There is no denying they exist and weren't an owner modification but IH never documented that either.
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:58 am

I only have 4 right now all are farmall cubs with 12 volt systems , I am waiting on some more #s to come in
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Barnyard » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:10 am

Boss Hog wrote:I only have 4 right now all are farmall cubs with 12 volt systems , I am waiting on some more #s to come in

Were your's all found regionally or were they scattered across the country? If they were painted specifically for one company they may not have traveled far from their original destination and may not be found much more than 100 miles outside your area. That's why I was wondering about the serial # range. If other members knew what the range was they could check their's more closely to see if it was repainted or not. Without that you probably won't get a lot of feedback from others. I didn't get any info on the trimmed dashes until I mentioned what range we suspected.
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 am

so fare all are from 2245XX to 2247XX 2 of them are 100 miles from me I will have to go get the #s off the other 2 that I know of close by here , I have one coming , but it is from out of state
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Barnyard » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:55 am

Boss Hog wrote: 2 of them are 100 miles from me I will have to go get the #s off the other 2 that I know of close by here

That's a start.
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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby Super A » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:20 am

Boss Hog wrote:
right strange that they all are with in few hundred of the same serial # on the ones that I know of
And were Farmall Cubs too , I guess they had a bad run on tanks at the start in 64



When did they start painting Cub's calf scours yellow and white? I know I should know this, but I don't know sh*t too well....(You're welcome, Yogie!) The first time I ever saw a red cub with a white hood, my first thought was they ran out of red tanks at the factory. I don't know but I would guess they painted the tanks and other white sheet metal separate from the rest of the tractor. Anyhow I don't see IH stopping the assembly line to wait for red tanks when they have a whole pile of white ones sitting around....

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Re: The start of # 5 looks red to me

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:31 am

Yogie wrote:Be danged if he ain't been around a lot for a young feller.... :lol:

I'm guessing you are referring to me here. As a matter of fact I have been around a lot. I've been to nearly every state in the Union, and the better part of 55 countries around the world, but I don't understand how my travels relate to the topic.

Boss Hog wrote:right strange that they all are with in few hundred of the same serial # on the ones that I know of
And were Farmall Cubs too , I guess they had a bad run on tanks at the start in 64

If they are Boss, that's great, and if compiled would be documentation and I'll be a believer too. I know of one down in Fla that I'll get the numbers for you as well.
If it happens that they all line up numerically to indicate that IH did paint them this way, or they just turned out this way due to tank shortages like Al suggests, I'll be the first to post on the board that you as well as the others are right, and my beliefs are wrong! It certainly wouldn't be the first time! :D
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