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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Boss Hog » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:59 pm

Al,With the 123 the tank sets about 1 inch or so higher than the 113s If you will look the SC is taller than the regular C
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:04 pm

Super A wrote:
Boss Hog wrote: the 123 is a much taller engine



I don't think they are, 'least not the earlier 123's. It looks taller because the hood is setting taller. As Jim said I think AV2 might be a frankentractor.

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The bottom spacing between the last "groove" on the two grills is different. Does anyone know why?
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:08 pm

Boss Hog wrote:Al,With the 123 the tank sets about 1 inch or so higher than the 113s If you will look the SC is taller than the regular C
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It's because the radiator is taller. The engine itself is the same height.

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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:13 pm

tractordad wrote:
Super A wrote:
Boss Hog wrote: the 123 is a much taller engine



I don't think they are, 'least not the earlier 123's. It looks taller because the hood is setting taller. As Jim said I think AV2 might be a frankentractor.

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The bottom spacing between the last "groove" on the two grills is different. Does anyone know why?


That makes up for the taller radiator.

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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:49 pm

With the help of Boss, I spoke with a gentleman whom very versed on Farmalls. I pulled off some casting dates and it has been determined this is a 130 high crop. Obviously I need to find the correct tin.

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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Matt Kirsch » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:47 pm

I have seen a lot of '00 and '30 series tractors with badly bashed tin. I've also heard that the sheet metal on these tractors was exceptionally poor quality.
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:54 pm

I do believe finding a grill and hood will be a challenge. An 100,130, 200, or 230 grill and hood will work. If anyone has any of these parts available, I'd appreciate you letting me know. Thanks
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:10 am

The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:36 am

Super A wrote:The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

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Al,

I agree. I may sell my grill as a complete unit or do as you said and replace the grill insert. I see Steiner and Farmallparts.com. has them. If you know of someone less expensive, kindly let me k now. Thanks
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Super A » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:40 am

tractordad wrote:
Super A wrote:The good news is, your existing tin looks good enough to me you could probably re-sell it to help cover the costs of the correct pieces. I believe the hood and the center grille insert for the 100-130 is available in reproduction, if you choose to go that route.

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Al,

I agree. I may sell my grill as a complete unit or do as you said and replace the grill insert. I see Steiner and Farmallparts.com. has them. If you know of someone less expensive, kindly let me k now. Thanks


I would look up OEM Tractor Parts but I expect they won't be much different in price. Also you will have to replace the whole grille, there's no separate insert on the A/B/C Super's grille.

If you decide to sell the the grille, I might be interested. :D

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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:44 am

Super A wrote: ....you will have to replace the whole grille, there's no separate insert on the A/B/C Super's grille.

What about this?
http://www.steinertractor.com/IHS310-center-grill-section-wscreen
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Re: Super AV and AV1 Differences?

Postby tractordad » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:57 am

Dale,

I have spoke with them yesterday. They have the grill insert and the bottom section. Discussions with used parts people I have come to realize the bottom section is usually always toast. This is the style of hood and grill I need.

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