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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:58 am

The ONLY place to get a new screen is from a CaseIH dealer. There is no cheaper alternative, no ebay aftermarket parts... You either suck it up and pay the long buck, or go without and potentially ruin all your hard work.

Most every CaseIH dealer offers online ordering and ships nowadays, but Carter & Greunwald is a site sponsor and their parts man Ken Updike is a pretty prominent IH historian and author in the antique tractor world.
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:45 am

How long would you esitmate it would take from start to finish for a First Time rebuilder? I'm sure the process goes alot faster once you've done a couple.


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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:14 pm

We did one at my first Cubfest (first one for either of us). It took about 4 hours from the time we got it off the tractor. About 45 minutes was spent cleaning it off before we opened it up. All we had then was the parts drawing, with the "How to's" on the Forum now, it should take less time.

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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:25 pm

So.....2 days (a weekend) from start to finish sounds conservative. I have a few that need a rebuild and really want to try it, but it's intimidating. Thanks Bob!
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby jamieei » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:44 pm

the most intimidating part is actually getting it cleaned up and keeping things clean. pull out a part, clean it, replace the o ring and put aside til the bore is clean, reinstall. mine actually sat for nearly a year before I reassembled and I only had a parts diagram to go by. wasn't difficult still.
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby minderbinder3 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:58 pm

Update= I finished the pump rebuild last night. It went pretty easy with the detailed pictures and instructions found here. No thanks to the terrible xerox copy of instructions that came with the rebuild kit. Also, special thanks to Mr. Wilkerson who stopped by to purchase my old 193 plow and advised me that the top nut and lock washer to my pump where probably in my crank case since they were not on the unit when I pulled it. Thus my hydraulic leak problems! He was correct and now I ordered an oil pan seal and finally bit the bullet and ordered for the touch control oil strainer (ouch!). I plan on changing the spark plugs, oil filter, and oil. What else would you all suggest since I have it all apart?
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:57 pm

Complete Restoration?? :D
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:32 pm

minderbinder3 wrote:Update= I finished the pump rebuild last night. It went pretty easy with the detailed pictures and instructions found here. No thanks to the terrible xerox copy of instructions that came with the rebuild kit. Also, special thanks to Mr. Wilkerson who stopped by to purchase my old 193 plow and advised me that the top nut and lock washer to my pump where probably in my crank case since they were not on the unit when I pulled it. Thus my hydraulic leak problems! He was correct and now I ordered an oil pan seal and finally bit the bullet and ordered for the touch control oil strainer (ouch!). I plan on changing the spark plugs, oil filter, and oil. What else would you all suggest since I have it all apart?

You are only one hour further away than I am from Sneads, FL and the DSCF (Deep South Cub Fest) happening in a couple weeks. Just bring that Touch Control right on over and we will get it rebuilt in no time!!! :{_}:
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby minderbinder3 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:36 pm

All done with that project. Thanks for all the advice it went smoother than I expected. The Cub runs like new and the Touch Control is smooth and steady. The only minor problems I had were those 3 back bolts on the oil pan and somewhere during cleaning process the rod that attaches to the hydraulic control got out of align and caused some unnecessary torque on the lever. I caught it early and made the adjustment but it made me nervous at first because it caused bouncing in the lower positions which made me think I did something wrong inside the TC.

Next up will be the front steering.
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby minderbinder3 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:29 pm

Well, it looks as if I will be doing this again. I have noticed some fluid leakage from around the arm/boot area...no big deal I just replenish the TC when needed. However, now I have the hydro fluid back in my crank case. My guess is that the washer I had to retrieve last time from the oil pan has come off again. I was hoping to make it until winter because I need the Cub to mow with pretty regularly, but looks like I will be in the shop soon with her apart.

Last time I rebuilt the TC I really did not mess with the arm/boot area too much other than cleaning the years of sludge away from the seals. Is there a separate rebuild for that area? Or...does anybody sell rebuilt TC's?
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:42 pm

There are o rings on the pistons that move in and out through the leather sleeves. If you didn't replace those during the first rebuild, you'll probably need to do it now. I would be surprised if the lock washer and nut came off the pump this soon unless it was incorrectly installed. I'd pull the pump and carefully check the shaft to make sure there are no wear grooves or nicks that would have caused the new o ring (or seal) to leak. If you have a manual lift lever, you could always reinstall that to use when mowing while you do the rebuild.

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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby minderbinder3 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:45 pm

Thanks. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a manual lift lever? I assume it would take the place of hydraulic lift and would allow me to raise and lower the mower deck. Is it something I make or something I can purchase?
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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:47 pm

The manual lift was an IH part for those tractors without hydraulics. Does the same job, just takes arm strength. A post in the "wanted forum" may find you one close by.

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Re: Touch Control rebuild

Postby bythepond88 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:04 pm

Ditto to what Bob said about the washer and checking the shaft for a grove or nicks. The washer does not seal anything. The O-rings on the pump shaft are leaking again.
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