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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby raystractors » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:07 pm

I did know that it was the first serial number for that year, but did not think much about it. The tractor was more than likely finished some time in December, and sat on the line through the holidays before being sent on its way. I would have thought that there would have been several of the cubs listed that were from the first off the line on any given year.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby Barnyard » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:23 pm

Ray, the serial number indicates the year the tractor was built. If it had been made in December 1969 and left the plant in January it would have been a 1969 and that serial number listed as a 1969.

It is interesting to see all the cast codes as being a "P". That would be because no cast parts would have been made in 1970 for that early of a tractor. Also interesting is that the engine was built in April 1969 while everything else was made in late 1969. They must have had a lot of engines sitting around.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby raystractors » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:55 am

Also interesting is that the engine was built in April 1969 while everything else was made in late 1969. They must have had a lot of engines sitting around.

Do you think that the engine that is in the tractor would be the one from the factory, or do you think it has been replaced? I have no history on this tractor other than I picked it up in north AL, and that it was in need of alot of repair. It would run but had a lot of blow by, and had little power.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby Barnyard » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:17 am

raystractors wrote:
Also interesting is that the engine was built in April 1969 while everything else was made in late 1969. They must have had a lot of engines sitting around.

Do you think that the engine that is in the tractor would be the one from the factory, or do you think it has been replaced? I have no history on this tractor other than I picked it up in north AL, and that it was in need of alot of repair. It would run but had a lot of blow by, and had little power.

Ray, I would bet it is the original engine. If somebody replaced it some time back I doubt they would just happen to find a late model engine for it, possiible but doubtful. IH didn't use the engine as soon as they came off the line so it may have sat in the warehouse until it was picked to go in your tractor. There may have been a glut of engines and they were using them up before making more.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:23 pm

The most likely scenario is that the raw engine block casting sat around for some period of time before it was machined and used. Note that the head wasn't cast until September, not much before the dates on the other castings. It is highly unlikely that they had assembled engines sitting around for an extended period waiting for heads.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby danovercash » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:47 pm

195897 is shown as "parted out". Is that an oops or a known fact? Dad bought the tractor new in 1957 and it was traded for 221525 in 1964.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:50 pm

danovercash wrote:195897 is shown as "parted out". Is that an oops or a known fact? Dad bought the tractor new in 1957 and it was traded for 221525 in 1964.

I really can't say for sure. This bit of information was in the database from when Trent was running things, so someone must have provided the information to him. I don't have any other information on it.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:53 pm

I just did a forum search for that SN. It is a possibility that Trent saw this:
danovercash wrote:... 195897 (Gone but not forgotten!)

and assumed that the tractor was parted out.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby Rudi » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:19 pm

There used to be a form, I think Trent made it up but I can't find it anymore. Anyways, I took all the information fields from the Production Lists and compiled it into an rtf file for Wordpad. Cub Production Database Information Sheet. You can print it off take it to the shop/barn/field fill in the fields - come back to the puter and enter the fields into a copy of the rtf on your puter and email it to Raymond. Might be useful. You decide. :idea:
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby midmo » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:24 pm

I could have used that Rudi. I got most of mine done my way. I'll get the rest of the numbers when the hood comes off and the wheel. The front bolster # is going to wait some time. Thanks Raymond!
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Thank you Ron!!

If there are any others out there thinking about getting their numbers to me, there is always time! I'll be updating the list at the year goes on.
If you see your tractor SN currently in the database, but would like to provide additional numbers, I'll take those as well whenever you get the chance.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:48 pm

danovercash wrote:195897 is shown as "parted out". Is that an oops or a known fact? Dad bought the tractor new in 1957 and it was traded for 221525 in 1964.

Dan, I have removed the Note that is listed with this tractor. It will not show up in future versions.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby Barnyard » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:56 pm

Here is the form Raymond sent me. I converted it to a pdf file also so if one doesn't work for you hopefully the other will. There is room to write info for four Cubs on each page.

This is a pdf file. You can print it and write your info on it if you want to keep it on file.
http://savethecub.com/cub_database_form.pdf

This is the same form but it is in spreadsheet format. You will probably need Excel to open it. You can print it, take it to the shop and fill it out and then fill in the blanks on your computer and send it back to Raymond. You can also save it as a file on your computer like the form Rudi posted.
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:07 pm

Thanks Bill!
I set this form up to aid in taking data at Cubfests. You can circle the information that applies to your tractor instead of writing the whole number out. I need to update the form to the current tracked items.

Thanks again to everyone that has supplied information to this ongoing project!
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Re: Cub Database R3

Postby danovercash » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:07 pm

Thanks,Raymond. I have contibuted at least two serials for tractors that I don't own. Both were 79's and would not have been entered by their owners at that time. (253511 & 253636)
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