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- Tubby Creek Farm
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Starter issues need advice
Hello all,
The old 49 cub has been a bit tough to start. The starter had begun making a grinding noise occasionally, and sometimes just made a spinning noise but not turn over the engine. Went to go do some work (see video) and the smoked a little and the starter stopped working. I know I should have dealt with this much sooner....
So can I get parts locally? Or have a repair shop fix/rebuild the starter or are the parts special and hard to get.
The old 49 cub has been a bit tough to start. The starter had begun making a grinding noise occasionally, and sometimes just made a spinning noise but not turn over the engine. Went to go do some work (see video) and the smoked a little and the starter stopped working. I know I should have dealt with this much sooner....
So can I get parts locally? Or have a repair shop fix/rebuild the starter or are the parts special and hard to get.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Sounds like the starter drive is chewed up, easily available and replaced, first pull the starter out and check the teeth on the flywheel, if the teeth are chewed up you will need to replace the ring gear or flywheel,if you just replace the starter drive and the flywhell gear is chewed up it will just destry the starter drive gear
good luck
Tim
good luck
Tim
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Re: Starter issues need advice
It probably wouldn't hurt to bite the bullet and have the complete starter rebuilt. As old as it probably is even though it sounds as if the drive needs serviced, there are other components that need or will need serviced eventually.
From experience I can relate if you do only half the job you will eventually wind up doing the other half, possibly at a less convenient time.
From experience I can relate if you do only half the job you will eventually wind up doing the other half, possibly at a less convenient time.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Any good auto electric place,should be able to rebuild the starter. As mentioned, check the ring gear, for damage. Ed
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Get it out and take a look at what you've got - you may just have worn brushes or you may have a completely trashed drive.
Really easy to get apart and you can check the brushes without even taking the starter off if you so choose - just release the band on the free end of the starter and look in the hole. They may look like these....
Really easy to get apart and you can check the brushes without even taking the starter off if you so choose - just release the band on the free end of the starter and look in the hole. They may look like these....
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- Tubby Creek Farm
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Re: Starter issues need advice
how difficult to rebuild these starters?
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Tubby Creek Farm wrote:how difficult to rebuild these starters?
If you have a mechanical skill aptitude of slightly higher than doing an automobile tune-up, changing rocker cover gaskets, and can adjust valve tappets, I would speculate you should have no difficulty doing the job. However, unless you have specialized tools, an armature growler for example, you could still wind up in the jack pot later if a component fails you neglected to test.
I second the motion of having a starter/electric shop do the work. A complete rebuild by a shop will more than likely give you another 5 decades of service.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
lazyuniondriver wrote:Tubby Creek Farm wrote:how difficult to rebuild these starters?
If you have a mechanical skill aptitude of slightly higher than doing an automobile tune-up, changing rocker cover gaskets, and can adjust valve tappets, I would speculate you should have no difficulty doing the job. However, unless you have specialized tools, an armature growler for example, you could still wind up in the jack pot later if a component fails you neglected to test.
I second the motion of having a starter/electric shop do the work. A complete rebuild by a shop will more than likely give you another 5 decades of service.
Te nearest starter shop is an our away. I guess I',ll just have to bite te bullet and take it in
- Tubby Creek Farm
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Yahoo! Talked to my local parts store, e told me about a guy that rebuilds starters just 20 minutes away.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
I hope your 20 minute away guy does you well - good luck.
Agreed - if you have reasonable mechanical skills, you can swap some parts yourself, but if you have to turn the armature or ream bushings, it's best left to a pro.
My problem is I don't care to spend $100 or more to 'rebuild' a starter when there's 30 minutes and $10 in parts in doing the job...
Agreed - if you have reasonable mechanical skills, you can swap some parts yourself, but if you have to turn the armature or ream bushings, it's best left to a pro.
My problem is I don't care to spend $100 or more to 'rebuild' a starter when there's 30 minutes and $10 in parts in doing the job...
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Re: Starter issues need advice
In my area it was $120 to rebuild my starter, if there is still some useable parts. You could by a good used one, I got one from Boss Hogg for a lot less than the total rebuild price that mine was going to cost at $220 . There are still some good ones out there for a good price from some of our reputable sellers.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
ask if they have experience rebuilding cub starters ( especially 6v) . our local rebuilder had trouble finding parts,took several weeks ( ended up costing $95). he did say he rarely gets 6v starters anymore . but, a guy in a city close by (hammond) had no trouble finding parts , he has rebuilt many . coppersmythe.......................................... ps: where i live is a very small town.
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Re: Starter issues need advice
I bet it aint as small as mine, surfer boy
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Re: Starter issues need advice
Boss Hog wrote:I bet it aint as small as mine, surfer boy
Boss's town is so small, that when he sneezes his butt ends up in one county and the gesundheits come from another.
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