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New Idea Horn loader

Postby 1farmall95cub0 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:19 pm

just picked one of these up today off my local craigslist, and am planning on putting it on the H,gave the guy 125 for it, so i think i got a pretty good deal, comes with all the hoses and is completley ready to bolt on the tractor and use, and comes with a second bucket, has anyone had one of these loaders before? any information on them would be appriciated, thanks Kile
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby v w » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:15 pm

I think one of dad's loaders was a New Idea. Is this the model that the cylinders slant back at 45 degrees and have a two stage cyl? The first gave a lot of break away power when loading manure and then the smaller cylinder inside of the large one could push the bucket quite high. If it is the loader I'm thinking of it worked nice and ran for quite a few years. We used to pull apart a lot of sheep manure and their little hooves could pack it down. Vern
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby 1farmall95cub0 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:22 pm

yes the cylinders do slant back at 45 degrees, but im not sure about the two stage cylinders, ill try to post a picture
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby 1farmall95cub0 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:24 pm

well lets hope this works, this was one of the pictures on his craigslist add
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby v w » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:23 am

If you look at the cyl on the left side of the picture (right side of the loader) you can see that the outter cyl is pulled out about a foot and the other one a little. The outter cyls start the lift and the smaller ones finish. That loader does put things up in the air. It has been about 50 years since I saw one so my memory may be a bit foggy. I think that one will at it's highest point will have the bucket above the front of the tractor. Ours had just a manual trip however. A 50 gallon barrel and a plank under the lift arms makes it easier to put on and take off. Vern
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby Matt Kirsch » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:57 am

The hydraulic tilt bucket is definitely not original.

Just be aware that that is a "pipe" loader, not the strongest thing in the world. That one couldn't have been abused too badly because it's still intact. They didn't hold up all that well.
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby 1farmall95cub0 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:56 pm

yeah i figured it wasnt original, but i think its a nice option to have, and nope it dont seem to have been abused to much, still in pretty good shape, and comes with a much better bucket
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby v w » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:08 am

In my opinion this loader has ample strength. The strongest shape for any given weight is a circle or pipe. An I beam has strength but in one direction only. It was used not only for its intended use but also for plowing snow using a 7 foot blade,. The tractor had wheel weights, chains and a 55 gallon drum of water (ice?) on the drawbar. The blade received a few dings from this setup but the loader never gave any problem. It was 35 years old when dad sold it mounted on a 45+ year old H, both running strong. Did a dirt plate come with it? This slips over the tines. Vern
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby 1farmall95cub0 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:32 am

we were able to get the loader on the trailer last night, it does seem to be built pretty good, and from what iv been told it will lift more than it looks like it could, but i guess we will have to see what its made out of!
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Re: New Idea Horn loader

Postby Matt Kirsch » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:09 pm

Like I said, you can tell that loader wasn't abused. Most of the pipe loaders from that era are long gone just because they didn't hold up.

It wasn't the shape necessarily but the materials used, and the general design of the structure. Poor steel, not enough of it, and half-hearted attempts to gusset and strengthen the structure were the problem.
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