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Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:11 pm

Hi All, there is a tag screwed into the casting right in front of the clutch pedal. It's stamped 12 31 0. My Cub serial number is 21005, which means it was mfg. after July of 1948. Does this tag mean that is the actual date of manufacture?

Ken

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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby cub47 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:16 pm

Ken, could that casting code actually be ending in a "Q? Sometimes they are hard to read with years of paint buildup.

The casting code indicated when that particular component was made, not every code will match on the tractor all of the time and some could have been made at some point in the year previous, ie 1947 in this case.

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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby cub47 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:17 pm

Or the original casting could have been replaced years later with an "O" year part.

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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:24 pm

Wow-ya'll all are amazing - two days on this site with two mysteries solved. Thanks so much. Sure enough it is 12 31 Q.

Thanks again,

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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby Rudi » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:25 pm

Ken:

It just looks like a tag but it is actually the casting code. Casting Codes (my I am a bit slow :roll: ) but a '47 would have a Q code and that is what it probably is. I mistook the Q for an O the first few times I looked at the casting codes on Granny.



edit: you guys are just too fast. When I looked at the thread there were no replies .. now there are a bunch. I must be gittin old :? :( :lol:
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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:08 pm

Rudi, I went back out the garage checked it again and sure enough it is cast right into the bell housing. With a serial number of 21005, I'd sure love to know which decal set to purchase. From what I understand before July of 1948 there was a circular Cub logo on the cowling. This has never been there since we purchased it in the 1960's. Any idea how to tell which decal set would be the original?

Best regards, Ken

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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby Rudi » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:44 pm

Ken:

It won't be a Circle Cub that's for sure. So the McCormick-Deering Farmall Cub set would be correct for a '47 and '48. It changed in Sept of '49.

Have a look at the decals on TM Tractor - Decals page 4 item # DE60 is one choice. Both my '47 and '48 will wear this decal, my '50 will wear the next rendition.
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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby cub47 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:50 pm

pvf1799 wrote:Rudi, I went back out the garage checked it again and sure enough it is cast right into the bell housing. With a serial number of 21005, I'd sure love to know which decal set to purchase. From what I understand before July of 1948 there was a circular Cub logo on the cowling. This has never been there since we purchased it in the 1960's. Any idea how to tell which decal set would be the original?

Best regards, Ken


Ken, Rudi's link has good info, but keep in mind the "circle cub" decal that you made mention of does not apply to your 1948 model, it was intended only for the early 1947 models.

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1994 JD 5320 Diesel
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Re: Date of Mfg. Tag?

Postby PVF1799 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:27 pm

Thank you for the reply. I'll get the right set ordered when it's time. Right now we're getting ready to disassemble the final drives. All the seals there are just rubbish.


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