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Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:33 am

Hey Guys, I got a chattering clutch problem on the 53...It doesn't slip (yet) but it shakes moderately when I take off etc....I bought it late last year and just changed all the fluids etc. and didn't get time to look into the clutch....I did grease the throwout bearing...Anyhow any advice will be appreciated....Thanks..Dave :help:
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby Eugene » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:07 am

Check the condition of the throwout bearing and that the pressure plate fingers are evenly adjusted. Check to see if the throwout bearing carrier is hitting the pressure plate fingers when clutch pedal applied.

I wouldn't use the tractor until I had repaired the clutch.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
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Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:11 pm

Thanks Eugene....I'm changing rear tires and getting ready to put a C2 belly mower on it so I intend on making sure the clutch is OK before I put the mower on....I wasn't sure if I would have to split the tractor so I wanted to get some opinions....I'll check the TO bearing etc thru the inspection cover...Thanks again, Dave
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby Boss Hog » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:08 pm

May only need to adjust the fingers on the pressure plate call me if needed
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby SONNY » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:53 pm

All 4 of mine are grabby!!!,, always have been!---so are the 185's and 154!--- I just runum!! LOL! thanks; sonny

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Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
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Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:30 am

Thanks Boss....I've got to look up one of the measuring do-hickeys on the how to site, to check the pressure plate fingers and make up one...I probably won't get into the project till next week as I got to be a plumber at the house here for a few days....In any event I'll certainly give you a call if I need to...Hope all is well with you and yours....Dave....PS Diana says howdy.....
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2019 " KuB"ota 2601 loader and roto tiller
1951 Ferguson TEA 20 (parts)( Uncle Rusty)
F/H Disc Harrow for cub L-38
C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
IH C2 and C3 mower
Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:39 am

Yeh Sonny, I been putting up with it just driving it to the Garage from the barn, but its the wife's tractor and she's pretty fussy about her shake rattle and roll....LOL...Seriously it does shake pretty good when taking off, so it is pretty much past the point of not fixing it...Probably why I bought it reasonably cheap....(for up here)....Thanks for your reply....Dave
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1954 Cub w/fast hitch (Ira)
1948 Cub ( Papa Paul)with Henderson loader..
1951 Mutt mix Cub (BattleAx
1950 Farmall Cub (basket case demo)
Cub parts tractor
2019 " KuB"ota 2601 loader and roto tiller
1951 Ferguson TEA 20 (parts)( Uncle Rusty)
F/H Disc Harrow for cub L-38
C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
IH C2 and C3 mower
Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:41 pm

Well I had one finger that wasn't touching, so I readjusted them all to 1 1/4 inch and adjusted the pedal with 1 inch free play....Got rid of some of the chatter but still have 50 to 60 % of it....I greased the TO bearing but I need to check out my grease gun, I think it may be malfunctioning....The TO bearing seems to have a bit of slop in it....I''m going to give it another go-round tomorrow....The TO bearing doesn't squeal and the clutch doesn't slip, it just vibrates when you let the clutch out and then the tractor continues on its merry way...Although both rear tires were 8.3 , one had considerably less tread than the other....Tomorrow I'm going to put on some tires, readjust the fingers again, make sure the throw out bearing is getting grease...The adjustment screws are even or slightly indented with the lock nut........If anyone has anything to add, I'm all ears...And Boss I'll be calling you if it don't get straightened out on this next go round, just hate to bother anyone on Sunday....Dave....
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby Boss Hog » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:08 pm

no problem after church I get home at 12:30
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Tractors Owned: 1957 Cub Low Boy w/ FH Mott Flail Mower
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1954 Cub w/fast hitch (Ira)
1948 Cub ( Papa Paul)with Henderson loader..
1951 Mutt mix Cub (BattleAx
1950 Farmall Cub (basket case demo)
Cub parts tractor
2019 " KuB"ota 2601 loader and roto tiller
1951 Ferguson TEA 20 (parts)( Uncle Rusty)
F/H Disc Harrow for cub L-38
C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
IH C2 and C3 mower
Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:15 am

OK Boss I'll give you a call 12:30/1:00 or so....I do believe I'm missing something...Haven't done any clutching since 1964... :big smile: Dave
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Tractors Owned: 1957 Cub Low Boy w/ FH Mott Flail Mower
1953 Cub w/ sprayer and 54A blade (Chompers)
1954 Cub w/fast hitch (Ira)
1948 Cub ( Papa Paul)with Henderson loader..
1951 Mutt mix Cub (BattleAx
1950 Farmall Cub (basket case demo)
Cub parts tractor
2019 " KuB"ota 2601 loader and roto tiller
1951 Ferguson TEA 20 (parts)( Uncle Rusty)
F/H Disc Harrow for cub L-38
C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
IH C2 and C3 mower
Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Clutch chattering

Postby pickerandsinger » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:37 am

Hey Boss, I got to looking at some old posts this morning and found someone who had the same problem and who's tolerances on the fingers were off by a 1/16 th of an inch......Anyhow I readjusted the fingers actually by sight on the TO bearing after I had an approximate 1 1/4 and now 98% of the chatter is gone...When I put the cover on, I'll give it another look see (maybe 2% worth)...I'll probably give you a jingle and let you know in case you have some other knowledge to share but thats where the problem was...(There was no cover on it when I bought it...I suspect someone was diddling around with the fingers and got them out of sync)...Thanks, Dave..... :{_}: :{_}: PS...Thanks to Eugene and Sonny for responding to my post also....
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Re: Clutch chattering

Postby SONNY » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:58 am

Glad it was a simple fix!! ---HATE them major teardowns just to fix a 2 cent part!!LOL!! thanks; sonny


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