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Adjustable Axle
I went to Barnyards Bash this past weekend and came home with an adjustable front axle for my Cub. I basically traded a non adjustable for it. After surfing through a bunch of posts on taking these things apart I was pretty anxious/nervous about taking the "new" one apart. Even though it had been in a barn for a number of years (buried under other stuff) I could see where it had been parked in the weeds for a very long time before it was pulled off. There was some green algae looking stuff over much of the main tube and a bunch of rust around the clamps and pins. Much to my amazement I was able to get it apart without days/weeks of fussing with it.
I put the axle in a bench vice and used the base off of my C60 front pulley puller over pivot pin housing.
I put the jacks on the plate with lots of Blaster in the joints to aid in loosening things up.
...and began to push the extensions off. One 6 ton and one 12 ton jack, it took nearly all the 6 ton had. Even pressure all the way up. To my amazement no heat required.
I used two separate lengths of wood blocks (not at the same time) as it came apart because the jacks alone aren't near long enough, being careful they didn't kick out.
Had the tubes been made of something other than high tensile tubing it would have been ugly. I paid great attention not to bend anything, although I did bend the 1/2" plate back and forth a couple times!
...off they came. I got one off Sunday evening and the other Monday morning.
After a bunch of wire wheeling with a wire cup on the grinder and about an hour cleaning the rust out of the main tube, threw some primer and paint at it.
I even cleaned up and painted the steering housing a bit.
Interestingly even after cleaning the rust out of the main tube, cleaning the outsides of the extensions (by cleaning I mean grinding, sanding, and honing), and spreading the main tubes at the slits the main tube is still about .020" smaller than the extensions ?? I'm planning to use a bunch of anti-seize when I put it back together but I can see that I'll need to convince the extensions to go back in the main tube.
My thanks to Bill and the guys at the Bash for helping a guy out. ...and thanks to Bill for putting on a great event, I especially enjoyed the covered dish cookout, good eatin'! I think tonight I will go out tractor tippin' with "Mater" and "Speed" now that I know how!
I put the axle in a bench vice and used the base off of my C60 front pulley puller over pivot pin housing.
I put the jacks on the plate with lots of Blaster in the joints to aid in loosening things up.
...and began to push the extensions off. One 6 ton and one 12 ton jack, it took nearly all the 6 ton had. Even pressure all the way up. To my amazement no heat required.
I used two separate lengths of wood blocks (not at the same time) as it came apart because the jacks alone aren't near long enough, being careful they didn't kick out.
Had the tubes been made of something other than high tensile tubing it would have been ugly. I paid great attention not to bend anything, although I did bend the 1/2" plate back and forth a couple times!
...off they came. I got one off Sunday evening and the other Monday morning.
After a bunch of wire wheeling with a wire cup on the grinder and about an hour cleaning the rust out of the main tube, threw some primer and paint at it.
I even cleaned up and painted the steering housing a bit.
Interestingly even after cleaning the rust out of the main tube, cleaning the outsides of the extensions (by cleaning I mean grinding, sanding, and honing), and spreading the main tubes at the slits the main tube is still about .020" smaller than the extensions ?? I'm planning to use a bunch of anti-seize when I put it back together but I can see that I'll need to convince the extensions to go back in the main tube.
My thanks to Bill and the guys at the Bash for helping a guy out. ...and thanks to Bill for putting on a great event, I especially enjoyed the covered dish cookout, good eatin'! I think tonight I will go out tractor tippin' with "Mater" and "Speed" now that I know how!
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Ray:
A very interesting take on solving that old problem of separating the front axle sections. I like it
A very interesting take on solving that old problem of separating the front axle sections. I like it
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Ray, I'm sure glad you were able to get what you needed and can put your Cub together sooner than you expected. You came up with a great plan to get it apart, I like that.
I copied and locked this post into the "How To" forum so it will always be easy to find for other members who may need help with theirs in the future.
I copied and locked this post into the "How To" forum so it will always be easy to find for other members who may need help with theirs in the future.
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Some come apart, some don't. Heat, hammering, Navy words, on some, doesn't help! Ed
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Re: Adjustable Axle
ScottyD'sdad wrote:Some come apart, some don't. Heat, hammering, Navy words, on some, doesn't help! Ed
Ed, No doubt, I'm pretty sure I had some luck on this one.
It'll be a few days before I get it back together Bill, waiting for a couple coats of paint to dry, in the meantime the grass continues grow.
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Re: Adjustable Axle
I used a cylinder hone with some old stones with light oil to clean out the tubes. I didn't paint the axles until I had them in the tubes with lots of anti-seize on them. They now adjust very easy, but man were they a bear to get out!
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Very fine business!
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Re: Adjustable Axle
I'm glad it worked out so nicely for you Ray. I enjoyed meeting you at the Bash, please don't be a stranger!
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Things seem to be working out and the axle change over is about complete. I got the extension tubes back in without issue, I used a brass persuader to start them in the first 3 or so inches and they slid in real nice after that. Didn't even screw up the paint (much)!
I cleaned and packed the wheel bearings, installed the cleaned up hubs and then painted them after I had them on.
...and it's all together, touched up a couple spots I missed, line of site aligned and everything tightened up.
I painted the rims as well. All that's left is greasing the tie rod ends, spindles, and pivot pin. ...and of course put on the front wheels.
I cleaned and packed the wheel bearings, installed the cleaned up hubs and then painted them after I had them on.
...and it's all together, touched up a couple spots I missed, line of site aligned and everything tightened up.
I painted the rims as well. All that's left is greasing the tie rod ends, spindles, and pivot pin. ...and of course put on the front wheels.
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Ray - this is an awesome post - that I'm going to put into practice. I'll take some photos along the way for the record....
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Re: Adjustable Axle
I wonder if coating the tube with anti seize before sliding it in would help getting it apart in the future.Anyone ever try that?
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Re: Adjustable Axle
This is weird - both sides got ample coatings of Kroil. While working on getting the bearings off - I noticed the one side I turned a bit. I grabbed it and twisted it by hand and it came right out. The other side is a bit more stubborn, but I will get it....
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Re: Adjustable Axle
Thank you for this post, a future project for our Cub, we also had one side that moved fairly easily, the other was impossible at the time. Now, I can log in here to show husband and son how to! You guys are so helpful!
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